Briahana Joy Gray: The Democratic Party isn't just ignorant, they're immoral-- Marc Lamont Hill interview

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She is a hardcore independant
She is also right
Trump treated Mamdani better than Democrats did, what does that tell you?
Obviously Trump did it for selfish reasons, but Democrats did it for no reason.

All the shyt Trump doing, the only voices I hear opposing it are Democrats that most Democrats don't even like, such as AOC, Bernie Sanders, Ro Khanna etc..

The Democrats would rather Trump have won than Bernie, yes that is the reality of the situation.
They gave up everything during the shutdown and even Trump was surprised that they didn't fight back, he was like huh... that's it?
In what sense is she Right?
 

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Bothsiders either don't vote or vote 3rd party. This narrative you are forwarding about voting Republican so the Dems do something you just made up.

BJG voted Green Party in 2024:

My guy I asked the question directly many times to Coli political strategists and they assured me the play was to #Dontvote thus giving Donnie the victory and the democrats will come crawling back to us.

I understand there's real socialists on the board and even they are anti immigrants and anti trans.

There's like 4 straight up Republican leaning coli members and I'm one of them
 

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My guy I asked the question directly many times to Coli political strategists and they assured me the play was to #Dontvote thus giving Donnie the victory and the democrats will come crawling back to us.

I understand there's real socialists on the board and even they are anti immigrants and anti trans.

There's like 4 straight up Republican leaning coli members and I'm one of them

People who don't vote can't ensure anyone's victory. People don't vote because they don't like the choices and don't care who wins. Would love to see a quote of someone saying that.
Some of us aren't ideological to be loyal to one point of view. Capitalism, socialism even communism they all have their good and bad points. It's just choosing the right one for a particular sector.
 

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I’ll go back & watch but I didn’t hear the bolded. The problem I’ve seen on here is any criticism of Dems is labeled as “bothsider” it’s counterproductive to any advancement of the party. The “stan” culture really has infected politics

People giving legit criticism & because it’s not what you’re used to hearing it “sounds” like she’s a bothsider? Politics would be so much better if we went off these people words but most importantly actions.
People don't stand for any criticism of FBA ideology.

Everyone has their blind spots but bothsiderism in coli speak is just Tariq's strategy of voting Republican or not voting in hopes that the democrats need us and will give us tangibles

He used the word tangibles because its vague he didn't even say deliverables

You definitely can critize the democrats but most Black people are gospel left meaning economically liberal and socially conservative.

What Donnie is doing now even shyt that's popular on the coli like the south shore raid is unconscionable. And if you're critical of the democrats yet in support of that. I'd question your commitment to the constitution and if you don't care about that you don't really have a political opinion
 

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This idea that anyone would be afraid of being a supporter of something because of some random, powerless Coli posters is an insane cope. Nobody is maga because they criticize or don’t fukk with either side. This conspiracy only leads to nothing being accomplished and all of you banging your heads against the wall because your representatives keep failing you. Keep believing in these people, vast majority that don’t look like you and don’t have your experiences, come from a lineage of bigots and privilege, are actually looking to help you :skip:
 

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Dems have a lot of core old peeps that don't want to needle in any instrumental way, a little bit sure, plus they have so many interest parties that fund that want the status quo to stay put.

They come into an issue when there is a % of progressives in their party that want to move the needle substantially. Never mind the other side and their march to a king.
 

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You got to pick your poison at the end of the day the Mid east shyt is between small hats and Pals.

Maybe if their own arab brothers didn´t throw them under the bus the PALs would have some motion.

Can´t care more than they care.


Everything has tradeoffs.

That’s the point Briana is making. If you accept genocide and ethnic cleansing being funded by our tax dollars out of political expediency or just don’t care, then that makes you immoral.

So don’t get mad when she describes you accurately.
 
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