Burna Boy with A take on African Americans

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That's why he saying if AA's and all diaspora link up with the mother land. It would be benficial for ALL OF US. We can support them financially with western money and they support our roots and fill in the gaps in heritage and culture that we all are missing.
We can benefit each other financially. Don't phrase it like that. Coli buffoons already think Pan Africanism is one sided.
 

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I hate these type of threads as it only causes division

I’ll say this maybe we all don’t know who exactly in our lineage was the first to come to America because it was by force:jbhmm:

Mentioning Italian & Chinese was a bad comparison. I don’t think he meant any harm but he gotta have a seat
 
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Alright, so I went to a top 10 college for computer science, have two FAANGs on my resume and over a half a million in net worth.

Can you point me to the resources I can access in Ghana that'll get my citizenship renewed by the end of this year (since these Ancestry.com DNA tests says I'm 30% from there), government sponsored housing, government assistance until I get on my feet, relocation assistance and a nice reparations check for my great great great+ grandparent being sold off into slavery?

Cuz I just want to know, what does my great great great great grandparents country of origin get me in life. If I don't get anything from it, and no African country is trying to give me anything for it, what are we talking about?

The pan-African institutions that should’ve been built to allow you to live/work in Africa were strangled by the CIA in the womb before it could even whisper the name of your ancestral towns.

We have to think big picture.

Asia in 1923 (under white rule, poor, economically exploited) is not Asia in 2023. But the foundation of Asia in 2023 was laid by people alive in 1923. Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Nehru, Sukarno etc.

The Africa of 2123 will not be like today. Let’s work hard, very hard to save our people in the global diaspora and Africa.
 

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The pan-African institutions that should’ve been built to allow you to live/work in Africa were strangled by the CIA in the womb before it could even whisper the name of your ancestral towns.

We have to think big picture.

Asia in 1923 (under white rule, poor, economically exploited) is not Asia in 2023. But the foundation of Asia in 2023 was laid by people alive in 1923. Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Nehru, Sukarno etc.

The Africa of 2123 will not be like today. Let’s work hard, very hard to save our people in the global diaspora and Africa.


So you can't point me to any resources that I have access to in Africa (we're focusing on Ghana right now as based on your user name I assume that's where you're from) as a result of my great great great grandparents ancestry and what you're saying is knowledge of where my family was 300 years ago does nothing for me right now. Because if you could, you would have presented them in this post.


Okay, fine. So this knowledge does nothing for me right now, just like I thought, I got it.


How about another question.


Are you and any of the Ghanian community who immigrate to North America doing any kind advocacy for programs to get ADOS (and hey, let's just limit it to the highly skilled of us, who have outstanding resumes and educational credentials with no criminal record that would actually contribute at a high level to the growth of the country) citizenship, a place of residence and financial assistance to re-integrate back into Ghana? Like are there any real serious pieces of Ghanian legislature being floated around to achieve this?
 

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That's why he saying if AA's and all diaspora link up with the mother land. It would be benficial for ALL OF US. We can support them financially with western money and they support our roots and fill in the gaps in heritage and culture that we all are missing.

We can benefit each other financially. Don't phrase it like that. Coli buffoons already think Pan Africanism is one sided.

You right... we can both support each other. Money and integration of all societies would be beneficial for all.

Like this?



But we the ones ruining pan africanism? :mjlol:
 

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The pan-African institutions that should’ve been built to allow you to live/work in Africa were strangled by the CIA in the womb before it could even whisper the name of your ancestral towns

:jbhmm: Thats weird bc we got the same CIA yall got, murdered leaders and all, yet we managed to built institutions "to allow you to live/ work" in America. Our great hbcus educated many of your revolutionaries, just as a start.
 
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:jbhmm: Thats weird bc we got the same CIA yall got, murdered leaders and all, yet we managed to built institutions "to allow you to live/ work" in America. Our great hbcus educated many of your revolutionaries, just as a start.

The CIA doesn’t operate domestically as much as the FBI. The FBI, especially under Hoover, was your scourge.

Re: same built institutions

That’s what the US government wants you to think. You mean to tell me your lives wouldn’t be better if COINTELPRO didn’t happen?
 
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I rarely engage in these diaspora wars, cuz they’re so stupid. People really got Twitter trolls and responses to the furor created by Twitter trolls making them think African Americans are anti Africa:dahell:

One dummy really tried to lump us in with Dominicans? :dahell:

African Americans absolutely have a reverence for Africa. It’s been that way my whole life; and I know it’s at least been that way since the 60s when we went hard for that shyt. But Africa isn’t our home. We’re foreigners when we visit. It’s fine, I get love in every African nation I’ve been in, but I am a foreigner; there’s no confusion about that. It’s no different than an Argentine visiting Spain (or Germany:mjpls:).

The problem with these diaspora wars is that they’re just full of ignorant statements; blatantly false statements. And once the war is started it’s just counter blows from there, so people are just talking past each other. At some point y’all gotta take a step back and see that our gripes are legitimate instead of just trying to dismiss them. Our main problem is just with foreigners who come here and shyt on African Americans. And I’m not talking about innocuous shyt like how we dress or how we talk or whatever. I’m talking about calling us lazy and parroting other white suprematist talking points (violent, irresponsible etc). I know numerous 1st gen folks who have told me their parents and elders do that. Of course we don’t like that shyt. And it’s extremely insulting to parrot that shyt whilst enjoying the liberties we fought and died to get. And y’all know this ain’t some anecdotal shyt that doesn’t apply broadly. Even with all that, African Americans still don’t have beef with Africans or others in the diaspora. Some may participate in the online wars, but in the real world, we don’t talk down on none of y’all at our kitchen tables. It’s not ingrained into our conversations or teachings to our young. Just don’t try to call us crazy for pointing out the bullshyt and act like it’s something we shouldn’t be offended by.

Even in this very thread there are really people trying to gaslight us by saying Burna Boy just said we should get a stronger connection to Africa. No he said THAT was the reason for us having a different experience that descendants of China in America. That’s patently false. I ain’t even mad at him cuz he was asked to explain why descendants of Africa around the globe should have a connection to Africa. He just used America as an example. If he had chosen Europe, he would have realized his whole point was stupid given how African immigrants are treated there even with their strong connection to the Motherland. Ultimately, I just chalk it up a popular artist being asked a question that was above his weight.
 

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Actually it’s just the opposite. You don’t see us commenting on your shortcomings, of which you have many, unless it’s in defense of some ignorant shyt one of you has said first. We know what our shortcomings are. We don’t need another Black person who isn’t from here and has just as many unresolved issues of their own to speak on them for us. That’s the issue here.

And I’m sure you can build a society on your own, but the fact remains you haven’t. At least I’m fair minded enough to understand why that is.
Some times we all need to hear things about ourselves from the perspectives of others..doctors go to other doctors if they not feeling well, lawyers hire other lawyers etc etc
 
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So you can't point me to any resources that I have access to in Africa (we're focusing on Ghana right now as based on your user name I assume that's where you're from) as a result of my great great great grandparents ancestry and what you're saying is knowledge of where my family was 300 years ago does nothing for me right now. Because if you could, you would have presented them in this post.


Okay, fine. So this knowledge does nothing for me right now, just like I thought, I got it.


How about another question.


Are you and any of the Ghanian community who immigrate to North America doing any kind advocacy for programs to get ADOS (and hey, let's just limit it to the highly skilled of us, who have outstanding resumes and educational credentials with no criminal record that would actually contribute at a high level to the growth of the country) citizenship, a place of residence and financial assistance to re-integrate back into Ghana? Like are there any real serious pieces of Ghanian legislature being floated around to achieve this?

I think you’re deliberately avoiding what I’ve said. I told you (with my 1923 v 2023) you’re focusing on now rather than helping building new institutions for the future.

Essentially, you’re someone telling Sukarno in Indonesia in 1923, “We’ll never build our own country. We don’t have organizational infrastructure. The Dutch will rule us forever. How will knowing who my ancestors were help me now?”

It’s very sad. You will have to learn by force.
 

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The CIA doesn’t operate domestically as much as the FBI. The FBI, especially under Hoover, was your scourge.

The National Resources Division is the domestic wing of the CIA. Although the CIA is focused on gathering intelligence from foreign nations, it has performed operations within the United States to achieve its goals. Some of these operations only became known to the public years after they had been conducted, and were met with significant criticism from the population as a whole, with allegations that these operations may violate the Constitution.



Re: same built institutions

That’s what the US government wants you to think. You mean to tell me your lives wouldn’t be better if COINTELPRO didn’t happen?

This is a non sequitur. How does that relate to the historical fact that we put more into Africa than theyd EVER put into us?
 

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So you can't point me to any resources that I have access to in Africa (we're focusing on Ghana right now as based on your user name I assume that's where you're from) as a result of my great great great grandparents ancestry and what you're saying is knowledge of where my family was 300 years ago does nothing for me right now. Because if you could, you would have presented them in this post.


Okay, fine. So this knowledge does nothing for me right now, just like I thought, I got it.


How about another question.


Are you and any of the Ghanian community who immigrate to North America doing any kind advocacy for programs to get ADOS (and hey, let's just limit it to the highly skilled of us, who have outstanding resumes and educational credentials with no criminal record that would actually contribute at a high level to the growth of the country) citizenship, a place of residence and financial assistance to re-integrate back into Ghana? Like are there any real serious pieces of Ghanian legislature being floated around to achieve this?
Great questions
 
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