Can someone explain "fake deep" to me

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The term people are trying to use is pseudo-intellectual, by the way. Just in case it took 9 pages to be mentioned.

Don't be dumb. You all would deny the validity of this SYNONYM if we used it.

Don't act like changing the word would shift the sentiment.

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

exactly

"look at my favorite artist.. so smart... so aware... so socially conscious... so much better than yours" - weirdos


I dont even think the artists themselves respect that weirdo segment of their fan base.

exactly

just stfu and enjoy the music for what it is.

 

[Magnum P.I.M.P.]

Don't be dumb. You all would deny the validity of this SYNONYM if we used it.

Don't act like changing the word would shift the sentiment.

It would. I don't like Cole, Kendrick, none of them. But "fake deep" is one of the dumbest terms I've ever heard.

 

[Magnum P.I.M.P.]

I'm at dudes really engaging this fukking clown @4d 6f 6e 65 79 in a serious discussion. Dude is a habitual liar and/or mentally ill. Peep this shyt:

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/9456838/

He lies like most people breathe.

Fred.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

can we get back to the other question - so what is "real deep"? who is "real deep"? can i see examples of "real deep" so i can sharpen my "fake deep" identification skills?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

can we get back to the other question - so what is "real deep"? who is "real deep"? can i see examples of "real deep" so i can sharpen my "fake deep" identification skills?

We're explaining it, and you don't want to hear the answers.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

Napoleon is back in the red no matter how many name changes rep resets or every other good thread his WOAT posting style always gets him in the end

 

[hex]

Napoleon is back in the red no matter how many name changes rep resets or every other good thread his WOAT posting style always gets him in the end

He doesn't even have enough sense to lay low for a while. Dude dikk rides Drake so hard he had to come into this thread to shyt on Kendrick.

Fred.

 

[Goodbye World]

I'm at dudes really engaging this fukking clown @4d 6f 6e 65 79 in a serious discussion. Dude is a habitual liar and/or mentally ill. Peep this shyt:

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/9456838/

He lies like most people breathe.

Fred.

I normally skip his posts but can't see how he's still allowed to post here. I wouldn't waste my time arguing with him but at the bytches who dap and encourage his behaviour

 

[B!tchuoffendingme]

When Drake brought up Black men being killed by police in Charged Up, only to never return to the subject ever again in his music. That was cheap exploitation and fake intellectual garbage.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

how so? like i'm not getting that at all...

they certainly can, i'm just saying a dude like kendrick it's mainly going to be critique or recounting of "i know someone" stories...it's not going to be "when i pulled the trigger". i'm not seeing why it's an issue for someone who isn't a gangbanger to talk about his experiences with it - it's not like it didn't affect him just because he chose not to be a member.

Take this interview for example...

Kendrick Lamar is someone who understands how to use his words to convey a powerful and meaningful message, notably in his new single "i." Speaking to MTV's K.Dot, Lamar was asked about his message of anti-violence and how it applies to the current situations in Ferguson, Missouri, and Staten Island, New York, after the decisions by grand juries to not indict two police officers in the killings of two unarmed black men. He comments on the situation and how he has grown used to seeing it on the streets of Compton, California, via Pigeons and Planes.

"It's definitely frustrating ... It's something that I've been around since the beginning of time. I remember coming up in the city of Compton and [seeing] these same types of ordeals."

He also mentioned that when he is making a song like "i," it is "about what's going on in real life. It's bigger then just a good tune, it's a psychological catchphrase."


Growing up in a tough situation, he knew the disadvantages that were set out in front of him from Day 1. His father gave him advice on how to handle one such issue, and that was racism:

"My father definitely talked to me about that early on — he came from Chicago to Compton, and he dealt with it his whole life. He knew the moment I was born [that] the color of my skin was gonna be put to the test, and that's just how it is.

"He told me, 'Every day, carry yourself with some integrity and don't let them see you sweat.'"

Lamar imparts further knowledge from his father on the today's youth, imploring them to not fall into the trap of violence but rather try and do something meaningful that shows you value yourself.

"I have to put that same type of influence on my lil brothers, on the lil homies in the neighborhood," he said. "We tend to act in violence all the time, and that's just something we were brought up to do. Now that I'm more mature, I [can show] them other avenues to go about handling themselves: Being knowledgeable and jumping into a book rather than reaching for a pistol and reacting that way."

Kendrick Lamar Speaks on Protests and Anti-Violence Message of 'i' [WATCH]


The contradiction here is that he states he was raised in a two parent household to be self-aware but then goes on to say that he was also raised to react first with violence. The "lil homies" he speaks of are likely the ones who grew up with absent fathers caught up in the streets or without a father entirely. Their primary father figures are likely their absent fathers' immediate circle (friends, cousins, brothers) who are likely also caught up in the streets. Kendrick's father more than likely went out of his way to keep that energy away from his family and didn't allow certain family members/friends to be responsible for his own children in any serious capacity. The lil homies might live in the same neighborhood as Kendrick but their worlds are completely different.

I myself have mentored kids coming to school with ankle monitors in the 7th grade... The strongest mentorship you can offer kids going down a self-destructive path is making the paths that worked for the better in your own life appear easily accessible to them regardless of what their environment is. Children are smart enough to know when one path is more realistic for them to take advantage of than another... Even though every path requires a lot of groundwork to be laid (including ending up with an ankle monitor in the 7th grade), it generally comes down to what path is more likely to solve the problem of the day. "Jumping into a book" does not put a dollar into the pocket of the 12 year old with the ankle monitor today unless YOU put that dollar into his pocket for reading the book. If reading a book leads to the same immediate outcome as risking violating your parole to eat then they're going to pick up the book.

If you're not cognizant of the daily challenges that the "lil homies" in these situations face then your solutions won't address the issues in a real capacity period.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Take this interview for example...



Kendrick Lamar Speaks on Protests and Anti-Violence Message of 'i' [WATCH]


The contradiction here is that he states he was raised in a two parent household to be self-aware but then goes on to say that he was also raised to react first with violence. The "lil homies" he speaks of are likely the ones who grew up with absent fathers caught up in the streets or without a father entirely. Their primary father figures are likely their absent fathers' immediate circle (friends, cousins, brothers) who are likely also caught up in the streets. Kendrick's father more than likely went out of his way to keep that energy away from his family and didn't allow certain family members/friends to be responsible for his own children in any serious capacity. The lil homies might live in the same neighborhood as Kendrick but their worlds are completely different.

I myself have mentored kids coming to school with ankle monitors in the 7th grade... The strongest mentorship you can offer kids going down a self-destructive path is making the paths that worked for the better in your own life appear easily accessible to them regardless of what their environment is. Children are smart enough to know when one path is more realistic for them to take advantage of than another... Even though every path requires a lot of groundwork to be laid (including ending up with an ankle monitor in the 7th grade), it generally comes down to what path is more likely to solve the problem of the day. "Jumping into a book" does not put a dollar into the pocket of the 12 year old with the ankle monitor today unless YOU put that dollar into his pocket for reading the book. If reading a book leads to the same immediate outcome as risking violating your parole to eat then they're going to pick up the book.

If you're not cognizant of the daily challenges that the "lil homies" in these situations face then your solutions won't address the issues in a real capacity period.

i'm taking that a whole different way and also feel like you're reading your own story into it...bookmarking this to come back to

 

[Gold]

I always see this thrown out about dudes like kendrick, lupe, joey badass, sometime cole – basically anyone coined as creating songs "with meaning" or "depth" yet i never see anyone explain what makes them fake deep nor does anyone offer examples of who/what is "real deep"

Can someone post some examples of "fake deep" verses vs. "real deep" verses for me? Can I get the coli official list of "fake deep" artists and "real deep" artists?

Fake deep is purple prose for the sake of it.
It imitates something of greater substance while lacking in said substance

I can't give you an example because i dont agree that all of this rappers of fake deep.

But fake deepness is absolutely a thing

 

[NotaPAWG]

i view fake deep as someone with surface base captain obvious knowledge thinking they kicking some eye opening shyt

 

[SuburbanPimp]

This bullshyt white critique talking point. Lemme guess, you're Oprah?

A lot of songs isn't talking about this either. Ya'll act like this is all thats on the market.

And yes, If its poorly done, then yes, it should be labeled as fake deep.

I don't respect attempts. I respect execution and completion.

TRYING to be socially conscious isn't entertaining.

Entertaining, is entertaining.

It's not bullshyt.... It's facts.

For the record I don't call music "Fake Deep" that's disingenuous

Most of the songs people claim are fake deep aren't even "deep" in the first place

They are usually straight forward, whether they are excuted well are not shouldn't determine whether they are "Fake deep"

I just hate that term because it's like people are shytting on rappers who try to expand the content of the rap climate

That is all