feelosofer
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Yea that is just being greedy now.
Car companies stand to make billions by charging you monthly fees for add-on features like heated se
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Micro transactions hell indeed. You can thank FarmVille and Clash of Clans and all that other bullshyt from back in the day. I saw this coming from a mile away, the floodgates has been open for a while now and this trend will only continue to spread. Only some type of legislation can at least stop some of the bleeding, but we all know that ain’t happening in the U.S
zayk35
Superstar
All they gotta do is make it seem like some "broke Boi shyt" if u don't got it and ppl will flock to it.
Imagine getting locked outta your car because you’re a few days late on the payment
Ford Applies to Patent Self-Repossessing Cars That Can Drive Themselves Away
Ford's proposed system would allow your car to lock itself, disable certain features, and even drive itself autonomously to an impound lot.
www.thedrive.com
Ford Applies to Patent Self-Repossessing Cars That Can Drive Themselves Away
It's gonna boil down to people buying cheapest option and jailbreaking the car like it was a 2010 iphone. If it's your device/car not much of a legal case.
One twitter post and/or reddit thread will alter the game.
It's gon backfire at some point as security updates for cars beyond a certain age is a waste of resources.
One twitter post and/or reddit thread will alter the game.
It's gon backfire at some point as security updates for cars beyond a certain age is a waste of resources.
Cars will have something like Denuvo in them. They'll probably have to "call home" every once in a while, and won't start if they detect software modification.
Jailbreaking it will likely void your warranty and if it governs anything like accelrators or braking, invalidate your insurance in the case of a collision.
Yeah....I'm just thinking they have to deactivate all that stuff after a period of time. It can't be in perpetuity. Does it all unlock after 8 years?
I can't imagine someone buying a used car in 2030 having to sign up for a subscription for extra features for a 2022 car, lol.
THIS IS JUST A MEASURE TO DO 3 DIFFERENT THINGS.
1. CONSOLIDATION OF ASSEMBLY LINE PROCESS.
2. DRIVE UP THE COST OF OWNING A USED CAR. THIS WILL DRIVE NEW VEHICLE SALES.
3. MAKE SUPPORT LINES CLEARER FOR CUSTOMER SUPPORT.
THE COST SAVINGS WILL BE INSANE FOR AUTO MAKERS. NEW CAR CUSTOMERS WON'T SEE A PRICE INCREASE OVER THIS. NEW CAR PRICES WILL BE ADJUSTED.
EXAMPLE: THE 800 YOU PAY FOR NAVIGATION WILL BE DEDUCTED FROM MSRP AND RECOUPED ON THE BACK END VIA SUBSCRIPTION. IF YOU DON'T WANT IT, DON'T SUBSCRIBE. IT WILL ENHANCE YOUR RESALE WHEN YOU GO TO SELL IT. THIS OPENS A POTENTIAL LIFELINE FOR A 5-10 YEAR OLD VEHICLE. THE AUTOMAKER CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE MONEY ON THE CAR.
TO THE AUTOMAKER, THIS PUTS THEM IN A POSITION TO STAY INVESTED IN A CAR BEYOND THE 8 YEAR BURN IN. WITH MORE AND MORE CARS MOVING TO AN ANDROID BASED INFOTAINMENT SYSTEM, THIS IS KEY.
1. CONSOLIDATION OF ASSEMBLY LINE PROCESS.
2. DRIVE UP THE COST OF OWNING A USED CAR. THIS WILL DRIVE NEW VEHICLE SALES.
3. MAKE SUPPORT LINES CLEARER FOR CUSTOMER SUPPORT.
THE COST SAVINGS WILL BE INSANE FOR AUTO MAKERS. NEW CAR CUSTOMERS WON'T SEE A PRICE INCREASE OVER THIS. NEW CAR PRICES WILL BE ADJUSTED.
EXAMPLE: THE 800 YOU PAY FOR NAVIGATION WILL BE DEDUCTED FROM MSRP AND RECOUPED ON THE BACK END VIA SUBSCRIPTION. IF YOU DON'T WANT IT, DON'T SUBSCRIBE. IT WILL ENHANCE YOUR RESALE WHEN YOU GO TO SELL IT. THIS OPENS A POTENTIAL LIFELINE FOR A 5-10 YEAR OLD VEHICLE. THE AUTOMAKER CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE MONEY ON THE CAR.
TO THE AUTOMAKER, THIS PUTS THEM IN A POSITION TO STAY INVESTED IN A CAR BEYOND THE 8 YEAR BURN IN. WITH MORE AND MORE CARS MOVING TO AN ANDROID BASED INFOTAINMENT SYSTEM, THIS IS KEY.
IIVI
Superstar
It's crazy how we make more money than at any given time in history, but there's also a ton of shyt to charge us for because of the subscription model.
Recently I had to do a personal audit and lot of expenses were just normal things that I overlooked. For example the coding editor I use cost me $15/month (I prefer IntelliJ), some streaming channels I pay for through Roku and Amazon, Linkedin premium, etc. also look out for any monthly fees if you use things like Paypal, Apple/Android/Windows store, etc.
Historically we didn't have to pay for things like this, so it's very easy to lose track of and add up even though we get paid more at this point than we ever have.
Recently I had to do a personal audit and lot of expenses were just normal things that I overlooked. For example the coding editor I use cost me $15/month (I prefer IntelliJ), some streaming channels I pay for through Roku and Amazon, Linkedin premium, etc. also look out for any monthly fees if you use things like Paypal, Apple/Android/Windows store, etc.
Historically we didn't have to pay for things like this, so it's very easy to lose track of and add up even though we get paid more at this point than we ever have.
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A LOT OF IT IS A LACK OF SELF CONTROL. WE CUT THE CORD FOR CABLE AND SIGNED UP FOR 6 SERVICES THAT EQUAL WHAT WE PAID FOR CABLE.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAS LOST THEIR WILL TO TALK WITH THEIR MONEY.
IIVI
Superstar
Yup, in addition to the internet's upgraded data plan to account for the extra streaming instead of cable.
JoseLuisGotcha
Aka Allhiphopsux
After each monthly charge the tip screen will show up on your dash 10% 15% 20 % 25%. Other
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GM confirms $130,000 Cadillac Escalade IQ won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto
Fifty-five inches of screen on the IQ’s dash, and no room for CarPlay.
www.theverge.com
GM confirms $130,000 Cadillac Escalade IQ won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto
GM said it was going to drop Apple CarPlay and Android Auto in all vehicles, and now, that includes Cadillac’s latest EV.
By Umar Shakir, a news writer fond of the electric vehicle lifestyle and things that plug in via USB-C. He spent over 15 years in IT support before joining The Verge.Aug 10, 2023, 9:43 AM EDT
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A display showcasing the Cadillac’s 55-inch screen and driver controls, but there’s no room made for CarPlay here. Image: Umar Shakir / The Verge
There will be no Apple CarPlay or Android Auto in Cadillac’s new ultra-luxury Escalade IQ. Despite the huge new 55-inch pillar-to-pillar infotainment screen in the new EV revealed yesterday, compatibility for the popular phone projection features is completely gone.
GM said earlier this year that it would restrict access to CarPlay and Android Auto in its future electric vehicles. In April, GM’s VP of software, Scott Miller, shared some reasons for the decision, including allowing more EV-centric functionality like battery preconditioning when navigating to a charging station.
Tesla offers a similar feature and also does not have CarPlay or Android Auto options. But customers nowadays expect these features in new vehicles. Even Apple has said that nearly 80 percent of new car buyers insist on having CarPlay. It’s an unusual omission from a modern, let alone high-end, car.
The Verge received email confirmation that CarPlay and Android Auto weren’t going to make it into the Escalade IQ from GM’s East Coast communications representative, Paige Tatulli. Instead of CarPlay or Android Auto, drivers will instead rely on the Escalade IQ’s included Google built-in infotainment software.
Google built-in supports Google Maps navigation and some Google Play apps that you can log in to on the dash. Some confirmed entertainment apps in the IQ include YouTube, YouTube Kids, and Hulu, but Google built-in could enable more apps like Waze and even Zoom.
Earlier this year, GM received a healthy amount of criticism for its decision to no longer support CarPlay and Android Auto in its future vehicles. The Escalade IQ marks another confirmed GM vehicle to not include the features after the Chevy Blazer EV, which is starting to ship now.
Update August 10th, 2023, 10:03AM ET: This story has been updated to clarify that GM is restricting access to phone-mirroring features like Apple CarPlay and Android Auto in its future lineup of EVs.
I mean we have a similar dynamic with onstar in chevys . Even if you buy a cvhevy from 2009 tommorow morining, you'd still need to subscribe to use onstar. And the infrastructure for it still exists nearly 15 years later for that 2009 chevy.