Charles Barkley - "The NBA is the worst it's ever been"

[Trip]

the way the bigs are downgraded now, Barkley would feast in todays era. He was athletic, explosive, and very talented so what made u think u wouldn't adapt?

Barkley would dominate any era

 

[Playaz Eyez]

When was the Hornets ever contenders?

Yea there's a noticeable different in contenders vs teams that are simply very good. Some of those Mavericks teams in the early to mid 00s were very good, but not at all contenders for anything.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

The Jazz weren't that good. It was just good timing for them.

when the Jazz were reaching the Finals, the Rockets were and added more in Barkley and Kevin Willis and the Lakers were a bunch of youngin. Who else was good in the west from 96-98

if the current Warriors and Cavs better than anytime in the 90's besides the Bulls then why would it matter if MJ faced multiple teams? And u act like the 91 lakers were monsters or something

Because there was different teams competing to come out the west, where as now it will most likely be the Warriors baring any major changes. Lakers blazers suns rockets sonics and jazz came out the west. Right now it seems the Warriors will dominate the west as lebron has the east and it takes away from the competitive side when you know who's coming out of both conferences. Y'all nikkas goalposting moving y'all know exactly what I mean.

 

[Supreme365]

Yeah let's go back to the 90's when the Bulls and Rockets combined for 8/10 titles in the decade. Or the 80s where the champion was a flip of the coin between the Celtics and Lakers. Do these old nikkas even think?

The only time the league truly had parity was the 70's

 

[Monoblock]

Thought this was an old thread. Chuck just howling at the moon saying the same ole shyt. If he was playing he still would be ringless.

 

[Supreme365]

No way in hell. You can even go back to 2008

So many contenders. In the West you had Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, Hornets, Suns

In the East you had Celtics, Pistons, Cavs, Magic

In 08 the hornets and magic weren't contenders the cavs really didn't have a shot of winning either they were missing pieces and the pistons had already lost Big Ben

 

[FTBS]

I just can't get over people talking about "bu...bu....but there is only 3 teams with a chance" in the NBA like it's new or rare :doc in disbelief gif:. It's like saying "this nikka Jay kept talking about money on his last album". And then you got these attempts to prop up these extra regular to pretty good teams from back in the day .

It's clear that the realities of following this sport as an adult are hitting a lot of folks hard. It's the same as it has always been it's just not your favorite players at the top running shyt and you know better than to buy into the hype of these also rans now. Chuck is just an old bitter idiot. at anyone taking this dude serious when he literally says the same exact shyt at least once a year.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

I just can't get over people talking about "bu...bu....but there is only 3 teams with a chance" in the NBA like it's new or rare :doc in disbelief gif:. It's like saying "this nikka Jay kept talking about money on his last album". And then you got these attempts to prop up these extra regular to pretty good teams from back in the day .

It's clear that the realities of following this sport as an adult are hitting a lot of folks hard. It's the same as it has always been it's just not your favorite players at the top running shyt and you know better than to buy into the hype of these also rans now. Chuck is just an old bitter idiot. at anyone taking this dude serious when he literally says the same exact shyt at least once a year.

Yeah like people laugh at the notion of the Clippers being considered serious contenders now but watch, 10 years from now old heads are gonna be mentioning them as one of several elite teams from back in the day that were clearly way tougher competition than whatever the top teams are.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Yeah like people laugh at the notion of the Clippers being considered serious contenders now but watch, 10 years from now old heads are gonna be mentioning them as one of several elite teams from back in the day that were clearly way tougher competition than whatever the top teams are.

You mean like people do now with the Knicks and Pacers and jazz ?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Is he wrong? Lebron is going to his 7th NBA final in a row with no competition in the Leastern Conference again...

Wade saved this man in 2012 so salute to him but competition is trash...

So the only thing that defines an era is how many times a particular player gets knocked out before the Finals? And Lebron got pushed to 6 or 7 in a series before the Finals every year but 2011, and even that year Boston and Chicago both were real series.

Bill Russell, Jerry West, Magic, and Jordan all had stretches were they rep'd their conference about as often as Lebron has now.

Like @360Waves said, parity hasn't existed since the 70's. Los Angeles won the west 8 times in the 80's and they combined with Boston to win 8 of the 10 titles that decade. Chicago and Houston won 8 of 10 in the 90's. From 1999 through 2010, Los Angeles and San Antonio reached the finals 11 combined times in 12 years while winning 9 of those trips. There's always a small number of real contenders.

Keep going back.

Celtics went 12 out of 13 years in the 50s/60s. Faced the Lakers 7 years out of 8, Hawks 3 out of 4, and Warriors the other two. Lakers had three straight trips again right after that too.

George Milan Lakers won 5 out of 6 years in the 40s/50s.

The Sonics, Knicks, Jazz, Heat, Suns, Pacers, etc. were all contenders during the 90s and had MVP winners/ candidates. These teams played competitively and made MJ and them earn their shyt. Not like this cakewalk today where we can call both conferences at the beginning of the season.

Jordan and Pippen, Stockton and Malone, Barkley and Johnson, GP and Kemp, Ewing and Starks...most contending teams had 2 stars during that time. If anything, there are more teams in today's NBA with 1 star (Cousins, AD, Lillard, Westbrook, etc.) while most of the Superstars are clicked up on 4 teams.

Starks as a star? 35-year-old Stockton? Going to the Finals with Barkley and KJ as your big two?

1990s had parity because it was the expansion era and teams were diluted as hell. Most contenders were a superstar, a sidekick, and a couple strong role players. Some of those teams had starters who'd have trouble making a roster today. How did Terry Teagle get a Finals start for the 1991 Lakers? Who filled out the frontcourt with Barkley on the 1993 Suns? Who started at center for the 1996 Sonics? How were the Bulls/Jazz in the 1998 Finals when their starting guards were a combined 135 years old?

the way the bigs are downgraded now, Barkley would feast in todays era. He was athletic, explosive, and very talented so what made u think u wouldn't adapt?

Because he was a lazy player who feasted on being naturally athletic and either exploding past weak competition or doing a 10-15 second backdown into the post. . He was 1993 athletic, but that's nothing in 2016. You don't see 6'6" guys in the league today with the muscle definition of Samoa Joe. And his skill set was great for a forward of his time, but forwards like like Lebron/Anthony Davis/Durant/Giannis/Kawhi show so much more skill today. What of Barkley's skill set is 2016 elite? Plus he didn't try on defense whatsoever and never developed a shot.

Barkley would dominate any era

Not an era that actually required you to develop your game.


"According to Williams, Allen Iverson wasn’t the only Sixer who hated practice, because Barkley was the laziest teammate he ever had.

He was always late to practice, and even came in eating McDonalds on numerous occasions. He would ride an exercise bike while watching teammates practice, screaming profanities at them.

Williams says he saw Barkley practice three times in the two years he played in Philadelphia."

 

[FunkDoc1112]

You mean like people do now with the Knicks and Pacers and jazz ?

"Bruh the Clippers had Chris Paul and Blake Griffin and were winnin 50 games every year!"

"Say what you will about the East but the Raptors were always right there with the Cavs and they had to earn it"

"Houston could pour points on anybody, James Harden was putting up 28/12. Then in OKC they had Westbrook averaging a triple double. What teams today have that?!"

"The Grizzlies were TOUGH. Every team had to watch out for them and they were always a threat."

 

[Scholar]

He only saying that cuz he would've been a rich man's Anthony Bennett in this era

LOL

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

Thought they won a bit less . Still no team with Jameer Nelson as its #2 is winning shyt. Those Magic teams way overachieved. If Garnett doesn't get hurt, Boston is in the finals again.

Jameer was never their 2nd option , it was Hedo and Rashard

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

He was 1993 athletic, but that's nothing in 2016. You don't see 6'6" guys in the league today with the muscle definition of Samoa Joe. And his skill set was great for a forward of his time, but forwards like like Lebron/Anthony Davis/Durant/Giannis/Kawhi show so much more skill today. What of Barkley's skill set is 2016 elite? Plus he didn't try on defense whatsoever and never developed a shot.

@Ed MOTHERfukkING G tsc stand up

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

No way in hell. You can even go back to 2008

So many contenders. In the West you had Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, Hornets, Suns

In the East you had Celtics, Pistons, Cavs, Magic

Just cause you win a lot games doesn't make you a contender in 08 the Magic weren't but they were the next season and the Cavs had Lebron only fam.