Classics Discussion: Common
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IAmListenin'
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Hmm... I may be inclined to agree. Resurrection's in my Top 30 favorite hip-hop albums, and LWFC is around Top 90, but I don't care whether or not an album is considered "classic" or not, because it has absolutely nothing to do with my enjoyment of it. But since "classic" is code for "album I like" for many people, people catch feelings when people say an album they like isn't one. I enjoy those albums (I was just listening to LWFC the other day), but I don't know that I'd necessarily call them "classic."
Can anyone articulate an argument for why they're classic?
I'll proactively state at the outset that: 1) I was there when these and every album that will be discussed in this series came out in real time, so that can be eliminated off the bat. I didn't discover these albums retroactively; 2) I like these albums, so it isn't a case of me being a "hater." So what that out of the way, can anyone state the case for them that doesn't consist of "I like them, so that makes them classic?"
Dirty D
Vikes & Raptors 4 Life
Common is an artist that has lots of classic songs (I Used To Love HER, Bytch In Yoo, 6th Sense, The Light, Resurrection, Retrospect for Life, G.O.D, Book of Life, etc etc) but no classic albums.
This song is a personal classic as well:
This song is a personal classic as well:
BmoreGorilla
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Top 15-20
BlackMamba824
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I'm in the same boat. Not sure outside of quality what makes the albums classic although I voted for a few. At this point, though, it's not looking like he'll end up with anyI don't know if I can call any of his albums classics
If it was any of them, it would be Resurrection or Be. Somebody make the case that these albums have stood the test of time.
Pinyapplesuckas
He's A Good Man
I did. They all stood the test of timeI don't know if I can call any of his albums classics
If it was any of them, it would be Resurrection or Be. Somebody make the case that these albums have stood the test of time.
Except UMC
BlackMamba824
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Pretty sure I've never made it through that album in full.I did. They all stood the test of time
Except UMC
IAmListenin'
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I don't know if I can call any of his albums classics
If it was any of them, it would be Resurrection or Be. Somebody make the case that these albums have stood the test of time.
That's just what I was thinking. Common's albums are ranked like this for me:
26. Resurrection
86. Like Water for Chocolate
94. Be
But I don't know that they're "classics."
BlackMamba824
Pro
Just out of curiosity, how exactly did you go about reaching that conclusion (with the rankings) for albums on an all-time list?
i mean he doesn't have any illmatic/chronic tier classics but i thought the purpose of this was to come up with about 50 coli consensus classics
for example one of the reasons id put ress as a classic would be the fact that he had the balls to stand by his track i used to love her by beefing with cube at a time when not many wanted any issues with the don mega and a little hip hop history was written from there... at least that's how i look at things
for example one of the reasons id put ress as a classic would be the fact that he had the balls to stand by his track i used to love her by beefing with cube at a time when not many wanted any issues with the don mega and a little hip hop history was written from there... at least that's how i look at things
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IAmListenin'
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How many albums did you rank? Can you post the entire list?
Music has been very important in my life, and I've listened to a lot of it. It's helped me get through personal situations in my life, and there's music I put on for certain moods I'm in. Since everyone makes lists, one time I finally decided to make my own. I initially attempted to make a list of "best" albums, but "best" goes beyond what I personally like and would also necessitate albums I don't particularly personally care for, which I objectively recognize are considered great in the genre. I abandoned that, and made a list consisting exclusively of my favorite albums, which I could better assess. I couldn't do a Top 5 or Top 10, because I don't think people realize how small of a number that is, and how many good albums would necessarily be left off such a limited list. Twenty-five and fifty were also too small for me, as albums would still be left off that I wouldn't want to leave off. So I did 100, so that all the albums I wanted to recognize would be there. I like more than 100 albums, but that number's big enough that wouldn't be a lot of albums I like that get left off.
I don't think I'll post the list, at least right now, because 1) as I alluded to before, people catch feelings when their favorites albums either aren't on someone else's list or high enough for them; and 2) I haven't been a registered member of this board long enough for anyone to give a uff. It hasn't even been a month and a half yet since my application was approved and I was green-lighted to post.
As far as timespan, I was in elementary school when Raising Hell dropped, and have actual memories of how big it was at the time and of rapping "It's Tricky" and "You Be Illin'" on the schoolyard, so it's on my list, at 97, while it probably wouldn't be on the list of a large part of the demographic that likely posts here. An album has to be at least 10 years old to make my all-favorites list (as opposed to current favorites or stuff I'm listening to at the moment), which means 2006 albums are now eligible. The Roots' Game Theory is a 2006 album I'm still listening to now that 10 years have passed, and it's just outside my Top 100. Some albums some people haven't been able to get into (often pejoratively called "dusty") I grew up with in elementary, junior high and high school, so they may rank higher for me than they might for others who are going back and listening to them and have to get used to a different sound than they're accustomed to. I have 15 post-2000 albums on my list (Supreme Clientele's the highest at #34), as there may not have been the same quantity of albums released that l like as there was before, but there's still been albums that have come out in that time that I've liked (it's a post-2000 album, after all, that's the inspiration of my screen name). I don't feel the need to continuously bash contemporary music, I simply may comment in thread on the stuff I do like and stay out of discussion about stuff I don't like or care about.
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