Convicted of murder at 12, Released at 19… is this a story of redemption?

[ThrobbingHood]

A lot of kid are raised in horrible environments and don't plot the murder of a 9 YEAR OLD child. That's called a sociopath or psychopath taking advantage of dumb gullible people.

You’re right. A lot don’t because you have to judge each person’s experience on their individual merit.

Society claims to care about mental health, but the reason we have so many “crazies” walking around homeless, attacking and murdering random civilians is because of the lack of investment into mental institutions.

We send these people in and out of the penal system until they end up taking an innocent person’s life. Just think how many red flags were ignored when Jamarion was being abused by his parents. Think how many times he went into school battered and bruised.

This could’ve been prevented before the young boy’s life was taken. I truly don’t believe every sociopath is born that way. Society and the government have neglected so many vulnerable children but then get angry when they grow up to become “plights” on society.

 

[Afrodroid]

All that matters is that a black life was saved.


I hope he gets all the help he needs and moves on

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

You’re right. A lot don’t because you have to judge each person’s experience on their individual merit.

Society claims to care about mental health, but the reason we have so many “crazies” walking around homeless, attacking and murdering random civilians is because of the lack of investment into mental institutions.

We send these people in and out of the penal system until they end up taking an innocent person’s life. Just think how many red flags were ignored when Jamarion was being abused by his parents. Think how many times he went into school battered and bruised.

This could’ve been prevented before the young boy’s life was taken. I truly don’t believe every sociopath is born that way. Society and the government have neglected so many vulnerable children but then get angry when they grow up to become “plights” on society.

You realize you can't rehabilitate a sociopath or psychopath right? You honestly believe this boy gives a fukk about the 9 year old? He's just glad he got out of jail. That's why being a sociopath and psychopath is so damn easy. People believe any lie
These kids are in paradise with how dumb and gullible people are. The kids know how they are perceived and take advantage. I know because I was a kid too and you know damn well a lot of these kids are not innocent they just put on a persona of innocence. It's just a stupid line demonic people like to use to justify their WILLFULL demonic behavior and the behavior of others as kids. "I was just a kid" aka I don't have any armor anymore to justify the shytty behavior I want to engage in.

 

[mag357]

Maybe you and the lil nikka that got locked up. At 13 I knew I shouldn't be killing folks and at minimum even putting my hands on other people.

And that's a good point bruh....
Not everyone is the same..
Maybe you had a level of understanding but someone else at that age doesn't

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

And that's a good point bruh....
Not everyone is the same..
Maybe you had a level of understanding but someone else at that age doesn't

What level of understanding is needed for a 13 year old to not take a 9 year old's life?
People can't accept people do what they want to do and juelz any excuse to do it, including in childhood
When I was 13 hormones were kicking in, thinking about girls, I'm playing video games, doing sports, trying to form a circle of friends for life etc. typical teenager shyt, not hmm let me set up this 9 year boy I'm playing with and stab him from behind. That's called intent and plotting

 

[Maruchan]

Really most of you nikkas is brainwashed. Yall proud to be sleep in the matrix. In real life (nature) consequences are for EVERYONE. Kids, babies, women, the retarded, short, fat, disabled...etc...
The matrix got all these societal rules and games and yall think they're real. In real life a baby gazelle will still face the full cause and effect of nature whether they understand consequences or not.

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

Really most of you nikkas is brainwashed. Yall proud to be sleep in the matrix. In real life (nature) consequences are for EVERYONE. Kids, babies, women, the retarded, short, fat, disabled...etc...
The matrix got all these societal rules and games and yall think they're real. In real life a baby gazelle will still face the full cause and effect of nature whether they understand consequences or not.

A game of who gets a pass when we are all affected the same. A demon is a demon.

 

[mag357]

What level of understanding is needed for a 13 year old to not take a 9 year old's life?
People can't accept people do what they want to do and juelz any excuse to do it, including in childhood
When I was 13 hormones we kicking in, I'm playing video games, doing sports, trying to form a circle of friends for life etc. typical teenager shyt, not hmm let me set up this 9 year boy I'm playing with and stab him from behind.

Bro...I feel the same way...
But I'm understanding of both sides...
Especially because not all teenagers or people in general have the same development....

This is why I always bring up the age of consent laws to go side by side with this topic...

If you're saying that you had all this understanding about life at that age...
Then are you saying that you should be allowed to consent to sex at that age?

That's where it gets tricky for people...

Is a person mentally mature enough for us to say they understood there actions of murder at that age....
Then they have to be mentally mature to consent to sex.

Like I said before...I'm cool with whatever society comes up with...
But we can't have it both ways... Or you're going to end up with biases.

Like only black boys being tried as adults

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

Bro...I feel the same way...
But I'm understanding of both sides...
Especially because not all teenagers or people in general have the same development....

This is why I always bring up the age of consent laws to go side by side with this topic...

If you're saying that you had all this understanding about life at that age...
Then are you saying that you should be allowed to consent to sex at that age?

That's where it gets tricky for people...

Is a person mentally mature enough for us to say they understood there actions of murder at that age....
Then they have to be mentally mature to consent to sex.

Like I said before...I'm cool with whatever society comes up with...
But we can't have it both ways... Or you're going to end up with biases.

Like only black boys being tried as adults

There isn't a both sides that's the point. People are just dumb as hell

 

[mag357]

There isn't a both sides that's the point. People are just dumb as hell

What do you mean there isn't "both sides"...

In this thread, there's people who feel like a person should have full understanding of there actions at that age and face the consequences...

And people who don't feel that way

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

What do you mean there isn't "both sides"...

In this thread, there's people who feel like a person should have full understanding of there actions at that age and face the consequences...

And people who don't feel that way

Yeah but we're arguing about a 13 year old
1) picking someone who he viewed as weak
2) proactively gained the poor 9 year old boy's trust that people keep ignoring focusing on the demon of course
3) STABBED HIM FROM BEHIND when all the poor 9 year old boy did was be a kid and trust another kid
When is there to argue about?
The other kid is what we call a demon, sociopath, psychopath no wonder why these people eat other people for food too easy to manipulate and can play on images and persona "I'm just a kid"
, This thread is bizarre and this is a weird extreme example to start a discussion. People are just finding excuses to excuse their behavior that's why demons LOVE childhood. It's their safety net I'm just a kid they know that's the perception. I was a kid too.
People need to stop this bias they have for children and understand some people are shytty

 

[mag357]

Yeah but we're arguing about a 13 year old
1) picking someone who he viewed as weak
2) proactively gained the poor 9 year old boy's trust that people keep ignoring focusing on the demon of course
3) STABBED HIM FROM BEHIND when all the poor 9 year old boy did was be a kid and trust another kid
The other kid is what we call a demon
What is there to argue about? This thread is bizarre and this is a weird extreme example to start a discussion. People are just finding excuses to excuse their behavior that's why demons LOVE childhood. It's their safety net I'm just a kid they know that's the perception. I was a kid too.
People need to stop this bias they have for children and understand some people are shytty

I'm not disagreeing with you brother...

But we aren't arguing his actions, which you just laid out...
We are arguing the understanding of the consequences of his actions....
Should he be held accountable because he may have not, at that age, truly and fully understood the consequences of his actions....
Maybe at that age, death was like something he's seen on a movie... Or video game...
And it doesn't register to him, the same way it would a person who has had more experience with real life

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

I'm not disagreeing with you brother...

But we aren't arguing his actions, which you just laid out...
We are arguing the understanding of the consequences of his actions....
Should he be held accountable because he may have not, at that age, truly and fully understood the consequences of his actions....
Maybe at that age, death was like something he's seen on a movie... Or video game...
And it doesn't register to him, the same way it would a person who has had more experience with real life

What I laid out DIRECTLY shows he knows the consequences that's why he picked on an unsuspecting 9 year old boy. Again I don't understand why what I laid out didn't make you draw the right conclusions. That was the point of me laying it out, that someone who knows the consequences why else CHOOSE someone he felt was weak?

I hope y'all not getting played like this in real life WE WERE ALL KIDS we know how full of shyt kids are
People are horrible judges of character that's why people keep getting played
That's why they act the way they do they know the consequences but they know they have a safety net
The worser the person, the more demonic they will be knowing this safety net
Then people grow up and forget all the demons they saw growing up, unless of course they don't care and were a demon themselves

 

[Wildhundreds]

If someone stabbed your 9 your old son to death, you would be fine if they're out of prison just 7 years later?

Unless it was self defense there no excuse for what he did.

Tough situation. Especially since he was so young.. Can't lock him down forever if it was his 1st offense. People actually change.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

I know a guy who kidnapped, robbed, and murdered his elderly neighbor when he was 13 in 2003 and is still in prison on a 30-40 year sentence; just looked him up and his current projected release date is 2041 when he'll be 51 years old, thats 38 of the 40 years served if he gets out then...

They locked up a 13-year old and took his entire life from him but I assume yall would find that to be a just punishment?

I don't feel like anyone under the age of 18 should be sentenced to more than 20 years, don't really care what they did. Yes, there's a possibility if some 17-year old murdered my 9 year old I'd find 20 years light, but I went to prison at 17 and met too many guys like myself who were teenage offenders sent to the big yards. These guys I've seen derided as "demons" on here are still kids, and you see it when you're in the presence of them....

For the record I got a 5-year sentence for burglaries that could have been knocked down to a youthful offender status and sent to a juvenile spot for a year or so, then a juvenile probation, but they went the adult route from the very start. Would it have shaped me differently, I can't say for certain but I can tell you going to prison that young didn't help deter me from a life of crime...

These dudes get sent to prison for longer than they been alive without and never get the chance to develop as real adults. It's unjust and I'm glad they sent this guy to a youth spot and are letting him free. He was 12...

nah bruh 14-17 year olds deserve any punishment they get for brutality. They know right from wrong bruh