Cultureshock: Chris Rock's 'Bring the Pain': Tupac squared up to Chris over his‘N*ggas Vs Black’ Bit

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You obviously didn’t watch the documentary.

1. Andrew Dice Clay told him it would be his make or break moment before he recorded the special.
2. The producer gave him an hour when ITV was originally only going to be half an hour.
3. The opening credits had the greatest comedy albums that came before him, so he knew this would be a timeless special and one he’d be remembered for.

So no. It wasn’t “he had no idea”. This was his comeback from failing on SNL.

LOL....I dont care what they told him.

Plenty of ppl have had hour specials. In the 90s ,early 00s when there was a comedy explosion, everyone was getting specials on HBO and Comedy Central.

Point is, you NEVER know how big something is going to be. Like a singer doesn't really know a song will go platinum 7 times.

Furthermore, it's just like Dave Chapelle doing the stuff he did on Chapelle show that he now says he regretted. You dont know how it'll be received outside of Black ppl.

In short, it sucks that we can't have our own sh*t anymore.
 

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I can believe that. Rock has come out on record saying he regrets performing that bit.
Yet the damage is still done. Even to this day whites and c00ns use that joke to make and co-sign their racist arguments and their overall ideology. This is why we can’t be tolerant of the respectability pound cake bullshyt.
 

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Yet the damage is still done. Even to this day whites and c00ns use that joke to make and co-sign their racist arguments and their overall ideology. This is why we can’t be tolerant of the respectability pound cake bullshyt.


And here we have the number one c00n :russ:caping for the degenerates of the black community as usual
 

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That's not at what you were saying, but i'll humor you regardless. He wasn't performing a bit, he was taking Rock's words to heart. So for him ****** was equivalent to white trash, and an applicable term to describe people of a certain socioeconomic status or behavioral trait.
So him singing a tupac song isn't an fair comparison. It would be more like him referring to his friends as "his nikka's". In that case i would be still upset at him, but for cultural appropriation, instead of bigotry. a lesser offense but still an offense. aka culture vulture
I know the comparison you're trying to make but people can be culture vultures with anything from skin color to fashion, so trying to equate tupac use of the N word to Chris Rock's is still a leap of logic.
/debate.
Nah. My point is that it’s hypocritcal for 2pac to be upset at a comedy routine whilst he’s been dropping “nikka” his entire career, whether he tried to reclaim it or not. One could argue that has done more damage long term than a comedy bit. I’m sure more non-black kids are using it now nonchalantly because of him rather than Chris Rock.

2pac has always been an emotional bytch, flipping out at everyone which eventually lead to his own demise. Who made him the moral authority on what’s acceptable?

Clearly Chris threw a Rock with that bit and it happened to hit 2pac because he felt some way. I actually agree with why Chris stopped doing it because white people thought it gave them a pass to express their racist views in a safe space. It doesn’t mean 2pac had the right to square up to him because he got his feelings hurt.
 

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Nah. My point is that it’s hypocritcal for 2pac to be upset at a comedy routine whilst he’s been dropping “nikka” his entire career,
I know thats what you were trying to say but i literally just proved you wrong. :mjlol:

your whole argument is literally just "he said a word, and he said a word. so that makes them both equally guilty."
without considering the context and the intent you just end up looking stupid. If i take off my daughter pants with the intent to change her diaper, that is way different than some stranger taking off her pants to oogle her. One is proper parenting and the other is molestation, even though the actions are the same. Intent/Context is everything.
You're a complete idiot if you don't consider content and intent when making conclusion about actions.
 

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No, He regretted it because he said he felt like it gave cacs the green light to say the same.

Exactly. Same shyt to an extent with the Chappelle Show. Cacs always getting too comfortable with shyt.

And mufukkaz need to stop frontin and being full of shyt. We knew EXACTLY what Chris meant with that joke. Comedians are not supposed to be PC and the fact that nowadays you can't even do certain bits is getting ridiculous. Comedy is not a lane for the PC crowd.

And yeah, Pac was trippin on this shyt. It's okay to make records with fukkery all day long, but don't say that joke. I hate nikkaz being so full of shyt sometimes.
 

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I remember when I was a kid, I thought it was funny til i get older and I wish he hasn't said that part. He's actually said he regretted it. Once that "Black People vs nikkas", white people and c00n took it and flipped it to used them.

I've never forgotten the scene of The Sorpanos where these white boys called him the N word, Black dude said, "I'm not ******, I go to school, I work", etc.


That shyt reminds me of Chris Rock "Black People vs nikka".

I understand Pac felt but also he was tripping too, he had to look at himself. Pac felt that way was the same way how C.Delores Tucker was feeling. When you have rappers breaking it down what a bytch is in their song like NWA's "A bytch Is A bytch", and Pac's "Wonda Why They Call U bytch".
 

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I think it’s good to see how it would be received today. It’s a reflection of how much more sensitive we’ve become over the past 20 years.

In the same way we look back at Eddie Murphy Delirious. The over the top homophobia is cringe to look at now but it was a sign of the times.
Homophobia? Man stfu with bullshyt.
 

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No he didn't. He had a room of Black ppl, who could relate, laughing at those jokes.

He had no idea he would become a superstar after that special. Plenty of black comedians had "black folks, we got to do better" bits.

They just didnt catch lightning like Chris did
This and who the fukk cares about white folks. Its always some nikkas on their well the white folks laughing at us bullshyt. Who the fukk cares its not even like most cats are even around white folks for this to be a problem. Some nikkas low key have inferiority complexes when it comes to what whites think smfh.
 
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the special is so much more than that joke, so much more....one of my favorites

they showed the women put a pot on the stove on and a man will show up bit :dead: classic


good to see how Chris fell, got up, learned from Martin and preachers, got a new perspective and delivered a classic
 
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