You all keep trying to make the argument that we shouldn't make things better because we aren't making them perfect.
@DEAD7 idol Rand Paul having surgery in Canada
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I would argue the opposite, that ya'll keep trying to make the argument that you should make things better even if the path you propose is full of massive corruption and therefore you won't get the end result you desire but that's okay because ya'll see those 'massive' negatives as trivial.
And then whe we acknowledge it's magnitude you label us as purists.
still don't think so? okay check dis, you can see me in many threads in HL defending bernie sanders and Alexandria cortez despite them being huge progressive democratic socialists.
This is because I do support Justice Democrats, i support the idea that the removal of corruption is way more important than any pro-free healthcare/education or any free market libertarian proposal.
The truth is that both universal healthcare & a free market libertarian healthcare system with both existing in the absence of corruption, they would both be better than what we have now.
What this means is that every day, everyone on the coli HL and the rest of america are arguing and hating each other for the wrong reasons. These are just distractions. This is why i am not a partisan.
That's why I don't really fight for free market that much and i do find myself supporting justice dems often.
Only reason why I sometimes do like in this thread is because people demonize libertarians too much, so i just try to add light.
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Nope...
I'd love to see Canada style block grants here in America...
Let each state craft a system to best serve its residence.
I supported the Graham-Cassidy bill which did just that.
4 pages and not one mention here that it's a private hospital?
It's not socialized medicine.
This is fake news.
I’d get into how many eye surgeries this guy does for people without insurance?
But facts don’t matter, just Jersey color.
Also he's consistently backed legislation to allow Americans to buy cheaper generics...
The statist hate for this man must run deep
It's not socialized medicine.
This is fake news.
I’d get into how many eye surgeries this guy does for people without insurance?
But facts don’t matter, just Jersey color.
Also he's consistently backed legislation to allow Americans to buy cheaper generics...
The statist hate for this man must run deep
levitate
I love you, you know.
But I thought that Trump and the Republicans were to have completely fixed healthcare in the US by now...
What surgery in the US is costing 5-8k ?4 pages and not one mention here that it's a private hospital?
It's not socialized medicine.
This is fake news.
I’d get into how many eye surgeries this guy does for people without insurance?
But facts don’t matter, just Jersey color.
Also he's consistently backed legislation to allow Americans to buy cheaper generics...
The statist hate for this man must run deep
He's compared national Healthcare to slavery.4 pages and not one mention here that it's a private hospital?
It's not socialized medicine.
This is fake news.
I’d get into how many eye surgeries this guy does for people without insurance?
But facts don’t matter, just Jersey color.
Also he's consistently backed legislation to allow Americans to buy cheaper generics...
The statist hate for this man must run deep
You've argued that national Healthcare will offer worse care and erode the private market.
We have an example of national Healthcare working and the private market working as well.
You're not actually making the point you think you are.
Your example uses block grants, Dems/progressives in Washington don’t want block grants...He's compared national Healthcare to slavery.
You've argued that national Healthcare will offer worse care and erode the private market.
We have an example of national Healthcare working and the private market working as well.
You're not actually making the point you think you are.
I support implementing the system you are referencing.
That said, Rand is utilizing a private hospital not socialized care.
The argument against block grants is that Republicans want to cap the federal contributions so low that it increases Healthcare cost for Medicare recipients.Your example uses block grants, Dems/progressives in Washington don’t want block grants...
I support implementing the system you are referencing.
Similarly, conservatives have not offered a block grant solution, to my knowledge, that expands Medicare to all citizens.
You tried though.
I admit, he did a terrible job of explaining the consequences of ‘declaring’ that healthcare is a right.
Rand(a physician himself) is drawing the proper implication. If healthcare is a right, then no doctor has a right to refuse treatment... ever... and the right to another’s labor can be stretched(not far mind you) to include and be a form of slavery.
As usual though ultra extreme rhetoric is easily dismantled to the common man. Rand should know ultra harsh rhetoric doesn't help and hurts the overall strength of your position when your on the right...
If healthcare is a right. Healthcare facilities that are open have to offer care.I admit, he did a terrible job of explaining the consequences of ‘declaring’ that healthcare is a right.
Rand(a physician himself) is drawing the proper implication. If healthcare is a right, then no doctor has a right to refuse treatment... ever... and the right to another’s labor can be stretched(not far mind you) to include and be a form of slavery.
As usual though ultra extreme rhetoric is easily dismantled to the common man. Rand should know ultra harsh rhetoric doesn't help and hurts the overall strength of your position when your on the right...
No one has proposed a 24/7 requirement for family practices.
Dems aren’t pushingbfor this Canada style healthcare so often referenced either...The argument against block grants is that Republicans want to cap the federal contributions so low that it increases Healthcare cost for Medicare recipients.
Similarly, conservatives have not offered a block grant solution, to my knowledge, that expands Medicare to all citizens.
You tried though.
Seems like more of an effective talking point than a policy Dems are interested in implementing.
I’d like to see a per capita grant rate agreed upon...
If healthcare is a right. Healthcare facilities that are open have to offer care.
No one has proposed a 24/7 requirement for family practices.
