Democratic Party Rebuild

[King Kreole]

In short they'd rather have Susan Collins win re-election than platner win because he will be one more person that changes how politics is done in the dnc. They want to remain in power keep status quo

They all need the status quo because their post-politics cash out plan requires the entrenched economic and social system to stay in place. Hard to take advantage of a broken system after you retire if you actually fix it.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[King Kreole]

With utterly useless morons like this in positions of leadership, it's no wonder the party is dying on the vine. First step of the rebuild has to be ejecting dummies like this. Looks like he's shytting his pants the whole time she's talking.

 

[Loose]

Agreed.


Eh, somewhat agreed.


I think for the people you're talking about, it was both. In fact, it was an unprecedentedly policy-driven emotional request. Enacting an arms embargo to stop a genocide is a remarkably clear policy demand, especially in the context of a vibes-driven campaign that was basically running on "...well I'm not Trump!".


I think the people you're talking about treated this election like there was a genocide actively being aided and abetted by the United States government (under a Democratic Administration), so the stakes were much higher than Obama vs Romney or Clinton vs Bush. I would argue it was the Harris campaign (and its diehard supporters) that were cavalier in dismissing the emotional stakes of this election because it didn't match their desired terrain of just abortion and January 6th. The inconvenient genocide.


Being embarrassed and frustrated that you lost the election to a reheated geriatric is understandable, but responding to protestors like that was obviously wrong and unwarranted. It's wrong on a practical level of winning political office, and it's the completely wrong position for a public servant to take. As someone seeking higher office, you are subservient to the public, including protestors and the potential voters they represent.

I don't know if it's a result of him being raised in a prior political era where the art of politicking was more widely practiced, but it's fukking insane that even Joe Biden understands this at a deeper level than Kamala. His response to his protestors was much better than hers. If the issue the protestors are fighting for is coming from your side of the political spectrum and is legitimate (which it is here), then you smile and say "god bless you, we're working on it!". If the issue is coming from the opposite side of the political spectrum and is illegitimate (anti-abortion protestors for example) then you smile and say "we don't agree, but I'll fight for you nonetheless". Mamdani has been conducting a masterclass at this when people jeer him as an evil muslim communist or whatever. He never cracks. Kamala is apparently very thin-skinned. Would have made a bad President.

She was just as bad before election with protestors to but we gave her a pass " im speaking!"

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

You understand that this was the exact same philosophy that guided the failed Hillary and Kamala campaigns, right? "fukk the youth/activists/progressives because they criticize us, they can't carry the party or bankroll our high-dollar fundraisers that are required so we can make six figures after we leave office, we don't need them, we'll chase the mythical moderate middle"...didn't work out too well for those campaigns, did it. Meanwhile, the Obama campaign (and Biden campaign to a lesser degree) was highly receptive to the youth/activist/progressive wing of the party and it turned out pretty well for them, huh...

The issue with this stance is that you’re pointing out why they lost instead of pointing to progressive wins.

I’m progressive and I’m also practical about what’s best for the country and black people. Most progressives have no bend in their politics which is why a lot of them low key like Trump

Reducing the denouncing of a genocide (that has Miss fukking Rachel of all people crashing out online daily) to “wanting perfection” is why we are where we are.

You choosing to word it that way is an example of what I’m talking about. If Kamala were to “denounce” genocide, it wouldn’t have been enough.

It would have been “she’s only doing it for votes”, “she’s still a puppet for Israel”, “why isn’t she talking about a weapons embargo for Israel?”

As we have seen, nothing short of a Mamdani figure (who again is one wrong word away from being turned on) has been enough for the Bernie contingent of voters.

 

[Loose]

With utterly useless morons like this in positions of leadership, it's no wonder the party is dying on the vine. First step of the rebuild has to be ejecting dummies like this. Looks like he's shytting his pants the whole time she's talking.

Lmaooo he sounds just like @Outlaw " We should be concerned about the Uyghurs ". They do anything to defend Israel

Wdit: he even threw Obama under the bus to defend Israel

 

[wire28]

This is largely the reason why both Bowman and Bush lost. You can't ignore how those primary contests became nationalized, or how they were driven by massive outside spending, and intra-party fights over foreign policy. The AIPAC and other pro-Israel groups spent tens of millions of dollars propping up googly-eyed racist George Latimer and the traitor Wesley Bell. Bowman/Latimer was also the most expensive primary race ever for a house seat.

Of course it played a role. But for some people there is a mental disconnect where the only reason their candidate of choice can lose is because it was rigged against them (sound familiar?).

Im still waiting for someone to explain the transition point where people stop voting for the obviously beneficial progressive policies from the obviously superior progressive candidate because they saw an AIPAC funded ad for the 8th time.

On a national scale progressive policies sound good to some of our neighbors until it’s time to get in the booth and make sure that black kid down the street gets free lunch at school.

Until someone does a deeper dive as to why the obviously superior candidates in these elections keep losing instead of just hitting the jordan shrug and saying aipac, it’s probably gonna keep happening.

 

[John Reena]

"If I was saying good things instead of bad things you would be cheering me!"

I like to think for myself politically instead of following behind liberal white women like some of y’all weirdo nikkaz.

 

[Outlaw]

Lmaooo he sounds just like @Outlaw " We should be concerned about the Uyghurs ". They do anything to defend Israel

Wdit: he even threw Obama under the bus to defend Israel

Why is the Uyghur genocide a laughing manner?


All this does is show that your humanitarian finger wagging is all a facade, fueled by algorithmic and grifter brainwashing to earn cheap hurrrr durr dem bad potshots



@wire28

@King Kreole get your little homie, he’s looking funny in the light

 

[Loose]

Why is the Uyghur genocide a laughing manner?

It's not a laughing matter, its extremely sad you and Corey Booker use whataboutism for shyt even care about to deflect at any criticism of the united states funding an genocide. Truly despicable people

All this does is show that your humanitarian finger wagging is all a facade, fueled by algorithmic and grifter brainwashing to earn cheap hurrrr durr dem bad potshots



@wire28

@King Kreole get your little homie, he’s looking funny in the light

Dumb nikka babble

 

[Loose]

 

[Outlaw]

It's not a laughing matter, its extremely sad you and Corey Booker use whataboutism for shyt even care about to deflect at any criticism of the united states funding an genocide. Truly despicable people

Dumb nikka babble

This is a redux of what chased the normies away from the democrat party, this incessant, insufferable, finger wagging firing squad that the left does for the issue of the month. All that matters to you lot is who is most pure. It’s annoying af and creates resentment towards whatever issue you try to bash over other people’s heads.

Your morality is selective, that’s the entire point of bringing up the Uyghur genocide, which you find hilarious for some odd reason.

 

[Loose]

This is a redux of what chased the normies away from the democrat party, this incessant, insufferable, finger wagging firing squad that the left does for the issue of the month. All that matters to you lot is who is most pure. It’s annoying af and creates resentment towards whatever issue you try to bash over other people’s heads.

The fact that you're surprised that DEMOCRAT voters oppose war and genocide, shows how far we have fallen as a party. What you call “purity politics”—is basic morality. Purity politics is something like debating the nuances of healthcare plans. What you’re doing is sanewashing: dressing up complicity in mass violence as pragmatism. While you help launder our party’s support for Israel’s slaughter of over 40,000 Palestinians, you expect applause for being “reasonable.” The party that claims the moral high ground is being held accountable by voters who actually live there.

 

[wire28]

I like to think for myself politically instead of following behind liberal white women like some of y’all weirdo nikkaz.

Our allegedly black friend of European origin using a monkey picture to belittle the intelligence of another on a black message board is definitely a choice.

 

[Outlaw]

. Purity politics is debating the nuances of healthcare plans

you’re a God tier troll