Democrats’ Working-Class Problem Worsens As More Democrats Stray Away From The Party

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

no one is defending trump in here i voted for kamala, dikkhead

and i don't like losing elections over crashing out for stupid issues that lose 85/15 with americans. i guess you can't relate

let's just keep losing

You’ve been crashing out for Trump for a year.

“I voted for Kamala” - white faux liberal proverb. Might as well be the new “I have a black best friend”

I ask you again, if you are literally willing to lose your job, have your taxes raised, and live a worse quality of life because of something that doesn’t effect 99.9999% of Americans, why are worth courting for votes?

 

[the cac mamba]

You’ve been crashing out for Trump for a year.

“I voted for Kamala” - white faux liberal proverb. Might as well be the new “I have a black best friend”

I ask you again, if you are literally willing to lose your job, have your taxes raised, and live a worse quality of life because of something that doesn’t effect 99.9999% of Americans, why are worth courting for votes?

why would i care if you believe i voted for kamala? this is an anonymous internet forum

hell, your progressive buddies were openly saying not to vote for kamala or biden, because of palestine. i did more to help democrats win than they did

 

[Absolut]

something that doesn’t effect 99.9999% of Americans, why are worth courting for votes?

The real question is why are you catering to the 0.0001 in the first place?

 

[At30wecashout]

For anyone who actually read the article, it is summed completely up with cultural issues.

Asked by the focus-group moderator if they saw themselves as middle class, one of them joked, “Is there such a thing as a middle class anymore? What is that?” They spoke about the difficulty of buying a house, the burden of having kids with student loans, and the ways in which the “phony” and “corrupt” Democratic Party had embraced far-left social crusades while overseeing a jump in inflation.

Trump, another man said, was the only one inhabiting the political center these days. But some expressed concern about how much they were benefiting from the early days of Trump’s second administration, about the potential cost of new tariffs, and about the president’s embrace of “distracting” issues such as renaming the Gulf of Mexico and planning to redevelop Gaza.

“I feel like the administration is going for things that grab headlines, like trans rights, wars, things that people pay attention to, rather than actual inflation and pricing,” one of the men told the group. “So that is part of the negativity of politics that I don’t really enjoy.”

People will admit that this is what people pay attention to. They will vote FOR Trump for these reasons and AGAINST Dems for these reasons, even if its not even their primary thing. Kamala didn't even bring trans people up but you keep hearing people talk about LGBTQ people (see the 2nd post in this thread) as if thats a major thing. The Republicans MAKE it a major thing though and so now its perceived that way.

Third Way, a moderate Democratic group, ran a recent Democratic strategist retreat outside Washington to begin the conversation about how to create a new economic agenda and how to extricate the party from unpopular positions on issues such as transgender athletes and immigration enforcement.

Moderates AKA Republican lite. Don't believe me? One of the articles on their site:

Third Way

www.thirdway.org

Below is a short list of wrongheaded and unbelievably unpopular policies that far-left groups are trying to strongarm Democrats to embrace. They might sound good in a faculty lounge, but as you read this list, ask yourself, can a Democrat win the popular vote if we’re the party of…

• Defunding the police;
• Ending incarceration for drug use;
• Cutting the prison population in half;
• Decriminalizing border crossings;
• Abolishing ICE;
• Cancelling all student loan debt;
• Making college free;
• Providing all Americans a guaranteed income;
• Establishing Medicare for All and abolishing private insurance companies;
• Creating a federal job guarantee to provide a job to every person in America;
• Declaring a “climate emergency;”
• Banning fossil fuels; and,
• Banning the sale of gas appliances?

On the actual webpage the bullet points have links to people from Bernie's page to Justice Democrats!

Long story short, OP posted an article that is a veiled "Blame progressives" piece. It does NOT mention economics, it constantly mentions shyt about white men and Latinos

After the focus group of white men, Bridge gathered a similar group of eight New Jersey Latino men—Trump-supporting members of the working class who had previously voted for Democrats. One voter said that the Democratic Party has walked away from representing the working class, given rising costs. Another expressed concern about the “woke” rules of Democratic governance. “People were getting hurt for any little comment, so you had to be politically correct for everything,” he said.

Democrats have spent years trying to convince nonwhite voters that Trump’s racial insensitivity should be a redline. These voters did not try to defend Trump’s racial views or argue that he is not racist. But even in that was a warning for the next iteration of the Democratic Party.

“Whether he is or not, I don’t care,” one voter said. “I vote with my pocket.”

The Bridge effort emerged from a four-day Palm Beach donor retreat this month, just down the road from Mar-a-Lago. Top Democratic donors gathered for days of closed-door panels with titles such as “What Went Wrong?,” “What’s Going on With Men?,” “How to Stop Losing the Culture Wars,” and “Sending the Right Message: Reviving the Democratic Brand.” A Saturday-night panel at the conference with Landrieu, Allred, and others laid out how much was still unknown. The title: “It’s All About Listening: How Can We Reconnect With the Voters We Have Lost?”

So understand, to borrow a phrase, family, that when they mention "Working-class" they ALWAYS mean suburban or rural white men. If you don't believe me, read the article and see who they are focusing on. Its not economics, its getting the version of the Democratic party that is "less woke" and more pro-white male.

 

[Buddy]

For anyone who actually read the article, it is summed completely up with cultural issues.

You're subscribed? Were any of these cultural issues voiced by BLACK people? Asking for my and @Bunchy Carter's sake. Something tells me he doesn't even know what he shared. Everything I've seen is talking focus groups with WHITE and HISPANIC VOTERS. His is is "Black" and didn't VOTE. Where the hell do Internet Ass Muhfukkas fit in this equation?

 

[At30wecashout]

You're subscribed? Were any of these cultural issues voiced by BLACK people? Asking for my and @Bunchy Carter's sake. Something tells me he doesn't even know what he shared. Everything I've seen is talking focus groups with WHITE and HISPANIC voters. His is is "Black" and didn't VOTE. Where the hell do Internet Ass Muhfukkas fit in this equation?

Nah, I hit the anti-paywall joint. One problem with bothsiders and republicans on here is they will willingly quote some right-wing source or some milquetoast Liberal shyt (Like the Atlantic which is owned for a woman worth 15 billion and is a consummate Moderate) and show it to US, a supposedly mostly black forum, as if we who live in Cities who actually matter to GDP should be coddling rural and suburban white men who don't like women and minorities in positions of power. These articles NEVER mention policies because they know Democratic policies poll better. They mention the cultural shyt that, surprise surprise, non-college educated white people in white enclaves have run from since fukking Civil Rights. Its disingenuous as hell. The article blames Progressives for their losses when Kamala was running around with the Cheneys Democrats will be right-wing as fukk and people STILL blame progressives. Its a goddamn swindle.

 

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abortion rights, expanding healthcare, expanding childcare, taxing the rich while cutting taxes on the poor, keeping the environment clean, etc

it's not hard to come up with a platform, and leave out drag shows for children in public schools

You literally posted what progressives advocate for

Tons of baseline Democrats were against the Green New Deal

 

[the cac mamba]

You literally posted what progressives advocate for

Tons of baseline Democrats were against the Green New Deal

moderate democrats believe in that shyt too minus all the weird fakkitry

 

[Buddy]

Nah, I hit the anti-paywall joint. One problem with bothsiders and republicans on here is they will willingly quote some right-wing source or some milquetoast Liberal shyt (Like the Atlantic which is owned for a woman worth 15 billion and is a consummate Moderate) and show it to US, a supposedly mostly black forum, as if we who live in Cities who actually matter to GDP should be coddling rural and suburban white men who don't like women and minorities in positions of power. These articles NEVER mention policies because they know Democratic policies poll better. They mention the cultural shyt that, surprise surprise, non-college educated white people in white enclaves have run from since fukking Civil Rights. Its disingenuous as hell. The article blames Progressives for their losses when Kamala was running around with the Cheneys Democrats will be right-wing as fukk and people STILL blame progressives. Its a goddamn swindle.

Sourcing is fine
These b*stards can't be bothered to read.
Can't be bothered to vote.
Can't be bothered to think.
Its no wonder they follow a highschool dropout.


@Bunchy Carter you're subscribed and started the thread. Can you share their findings on the BLACK -- excuse me, that's too vague. I mean the #B÷♧M focus group?

 

[TripleAgent]

I truly don't understand how this requires a high priced study

Gotta launder the money somehow now that they lost

 

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Correct. Perhaps the most effective political ad of this century. Now ask yourself why a presidential candidate for your party is EVER recorded uttering that nonsensical statement?

It's all explained in that article. Trump allowed the same thing when he was in office previously

 

[Ghost Utmost]

trump just put up record numbers with hispanic men, winning them outright, because they aren't going for this bullshyt, either. this party has a problem

but hey knock yourself out. if you don't think anything needs to change, if you're happy with last year's election results, then don't change anything. there was nothing disingenuous about that ass-kicking in november

How the Hispanics feeling now tho?

You really think Trump won straight up?

You think they ain't been working on cheating this whole time?

You think Elon didn't use whatever tools he has to cheat?

Every election is bigger than the last usually, cause the population keeps growing.

Trump got the same number of votes as last time but the exact number of Dem voters needed for that to be a win, just vanished.

And every single swing state swung his way.

Just assume Trump did something legit and didn't cheat.

It's still good vs evil. The one change Dems need to make is we need a rock star that's just a regular degular white guy. America is still racist and sexist and not ready for a woman. And prolly not ready for another non white guy anytime soon.

 

[the cac mamba]

How the Hispanics feeling now tho?

i don't know. ask them

You really think Trump won straight up?

You think they ain't been working on cheating this whole time?

You think Elon didn't use whatever tools he has to cheat?

no, this is retarded. inflation was bad, kamala is an awful politician, and this country has never elected a woman. it doesn't even cross my mind that trump had to steal shyt in 2024

It's still good vs evil. The one change Dems need to make is we need a rock star that's just a regular degular white guy. America is still racist and sexist and not ready for a woman. And prolly not ready for another non white guy anytime soon.

i'm all in on josh shapiro for 2028 unless someone better comes along, or he fukks up somehow

 

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moderate democrats believe in that shyt too minus all the weird fakkitry

They were the ones that were pushing that. Progressives didn't push Obama to legalize gay marriage. Establishment Democrats run on identity politics and that encompasses all things not straight white males.

Aggressive economic policies is the linchpin of progressivism.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Threads like this are hilarious because people are seeing firsthand what the alternative is, but are still bytching.

People don't want the bare minimum. Folks wanted Bernie and what'd we get? An ugly hag, a dementia patient, and kamala

Y'all gotta understand Democrats also need white and Hispanic voters to win. The boogeyman angle doesn't work.