Democrats’ Working-Class Problem Worsens As More Democrats Stray Away From The Party

[Chip Skylark]

There's two things going on simultaneously.

Working class - these are usually low information voters. They're scared and want someone that "feels" strong and tough. Evil Marmalade talks like a bully and makes them think he can solve all their problems, even though he can't. Nothing the Dems offer in terms of messages was going to change that. Ironically, they'll be hurt THE MOST by Marmalade's policies.

Educated liberals - have zero concern with Dems moving left on social issues. They recognize that establishment Dem leaders are comprised and will always choose moderate stances on economic policy because those politicians are part of The 1%. Educated voters can see through Evil Marmalade like glass and know he offers nothing but failure.

Working class voters are going to take the biggest L.....but Democrats need a simpler, easier to digest message.

They gotta create their own media ecosystems to almost brainwash the masses like the GOP has since the late 80s. Educated people will research and consume a wide array of media and sources. Working class voters will consume oligarch sponsored media that tries to sane-wash Evil Marmalade and make him seem normal.

Anti-intellectualism works to the GOP advantage....lazy citizens. Democrats have to meet voters (that MIGHT read on an 8th grade level) where they are. Dumb it down then hammer the nail as if they're paid to do it.

I agree with this

 

[IIVI]

Too many dumb people in this country.

Nothing to really study.

You see the damage this guy is causing during month 1?

2028 people will be charged up voting MAGA again. Can’t fix dumb. You can only try and outnumber them.

 

[UpAndComing]

Threads like this are hilarious because people are seeing firsthand what the alternative is, but are still bytching.

So you're choosing the Lesser of Two Evils?

 

[BaggerofTea]

democrats have to please 1000 different people, republicans only have to placate 1 or 2 groups.

 

[AStrangeName]

Now I know it’s a paywall but you see the title of the article but yet u fukking goofies immediately said it’s progressives fault, like yall don’t use any type of critical thinking skills

Trans not even far left/Progressive, republicans is fags too

The amount of people who are part of the lgbtq+ community that came out and was telling people that they'll vote for Trump back in November should kill the narrative, but they're still running with it

 

[Ozymandeas]

The problem is that the loudest voices in the party defines the party. The far right defines the Republican party because they are the loudest voices. But recently they've also became the majority.

I don't believe the loudest voices in the Democrat party are the actual majority. They are just the loudest and therefore Republicans and others label them as the actual representation, label and beliefs of the party.

Other Democrats need to tell them to shut the fukk up and not fear any blowback from dumb purity test Progressive and leftists voters.

Agreed. Moderates/Centrists/Liberals need to tell the Far Left/Leftists/Progressives to STFU.

They always talmbout the Dems won't give the people what they want. Nobody gives anybody anything. A politician takes it.

The country isn't fukking with Progressives like that. Barack went up against "The Establishment", the same establishment they're bytching about, and he got 50, 60% of the vote because he's a legit once-in-a-lifetime candidate. Bernie Bros think they're more popular than they really are. The wide majority of the country is Center-Left, Center-Right. They'll accept a slightly Progressive candidate. People on the Far Left will never get in.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Working class - these are usually low information voters.

Not necessarily true....... just like having a college degree doesn't make you an informed voter....

 

[the cac mamba]

2028 people will be charged up voting MAGA again. Can’t fix dumb. You can only try and outnumber them.

ehh. trump will be fat, old, and barely able to campaign. Vance's bad trump impression will be embarrassing

if dems get their shyt together, they can easily put up a strong showing

 

[Fill Collins]

This. Most are alcoholics, degenerate gamblers and the best of them lead very simple almost animalistic lives. By that I mean work 50 hours a week, come home, turn on Fox News and rage at the tv until they fall asleep to get up and do it again. Their idea of a fun get away is IHOP.

I think every liberal should do two years of manual labor because most seem to think there is a hidden working class man that just needs a chance to become enlightened.

It's the same conversations: sex, drinking, smoking, drugs, someone getting hurt, women, gay shyt, daytime tv, daytime radio and the headlines

Black, white, hispanic, all these mfs are dumb and

I consider/ed myself a lefty, but I was often the only other "blue collar", straight breh in person or online, go figure

There were a few regular men when I went to some DSA bbq at a park once but it was mostly college kids and tryna slam ass

I'm going to school () in May, it was a culture shock just studying in the campus library and seeing ppl read Chomsky, Zizek, Marx, Rand all those bullshyt mfs

I'm more of Richard Wright socialist whatever that means: I Tried to Be a Communist

 

[the cac mamba]

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Most Americans Are Liberal, Even If They Don’t Know It - The American Prospect

Don’t believe it? Check out these polls.

prospect.org

Why US Americans always end up with a president who is less progressive than they are

The majority of people in the US are progressive on the big issues, but the media and political establishment close ranks to make sure they get a card-carrying centrist candidate like Joe Biden. If progressives want to win, they’ll have to reframe the debate.

thecorrespondent.com

Convincing people they are not as progressive as they think they are is one of the most important, yet lesser known ways of gently but effectively cycling out change candidates from the system. This is why, and how, after three years of Donald Trump, a president who has exposed the pressing need for a root-and-branch rethinking of US politics, the Democrats reached deep into their resistance coffers and ended up with …

Joe Biden.

A media and Democratic party working in tandem​

Take Bernie Sanders.

First, the media just ignored him, leading to what came to be called a "Bernie Blackout". One study even referred to it as the “invisible primary” of 2015, where all Republican candidates individually received more coverage than Sanders. Hillary Clinton received three times more. Then, they laughed at him. "Long shot" Sanders with the funny accent and unruly hair. Then they fought him. "How Socialist IS Bernie Sanders?" asked the New Yorker. "Just how radical is Bernie Sanders on foreign policy?" mused the Washington Post. To New York Magazine, Sanders clinching the nomination would be "an act of insanity".

Then he lost.

It is a pattern that is followed not just in presidential primaries. Pundits and analysts ignored the potential of local level candidates such as representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley and Rashida Tlaib (collectively known as "The Squad"). When they succeeded in becoming elected, they presented them as part of a "radicals versus moderates" battle, constantly depleting their political capital. The word "radical", one that sits alongside the word "extremist", places them outside the viability spectrum.

Alongside the media, there is the Democratic party machine. A political behemoth that works on another front to paint progressive candidates as not only too radical, but unfit, angry, and naive all at the same time. Speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi dismissed the members of The Squad as simply “four people” who “didn’t have any following”. They have "their public whatever," she said, "and their Twitter world”.

This friendly fire has significant power. In 2020, Warren went from leading the field to dropping significantly after being savaged by other nominees for her Medicare For All plan, which was accused by Biden and Pete Buttigieg of being radical, expensive, and naive (like Sweden’s, dare I say). After such dismissal, a strategic coordinated effort starts to bite. Political points are collected, pooled, and then handed over for free to what the party has decided is the continuity candidate.

This sort of consolidation around Joe Biden as the centrist candidate transformed the landscape as he was awarded the political capital of other nominees. Candidates such as Amy Klobuchar and Buttigieg dropped out and lent him their endorsements. Despite being an initially remote possibility with few policies that excited or inspired voters, Biden clinched the nomination because of a perception that other candidates were wild cards, and a Trump trauma that demanded a return to "normal". His trajectory was not organic, but manufactured. A synthetic victory.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

It's the same conversations: sex, drinking, smoking, drugs, someone getting hurt, women, gay shyt, daytime tv, daytime radio and the headlines

Black, white, hispanic, all these mfs are dumb and

I consider/ed myself a lefty, but I was often the only other "blue collar", straight breh in person or online, go figure

There were a few regular men when I went to some DSA bbq at a park once but it was mostly college kids and tryna slam ass

I'm going to school () in May, it was a culture shock just studying in the campus library and seeing ppl read Chomsky, Zizek, Marx, Rand all those bullshyt mfs

I'm more of Richard Wright socialist whatever that means: I Tried to Be a Communist

I just recently bought this

Early Works - Library of America

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www.loa.org

 

[Mister Terrific]

It's the same conversations: sex, drinking, smoking, drugs, someone getting hurt, women, gay shyt, daytime tv, daytime radio and the headlines

Black, white, hispanic, all these mfs are dumb and

I consider/ed myself a lefty, but I was often the only other "blue collar", straight breh in person or online, go figure

There were a few regular men when I went to some DSA bbq at a park once but it was mostly college kids and tryna slam ass

I'm going to school () in May, it was a culture shock just studying in the campus library and seeing ppl read Chomsky, Zizek, Marx, Rand all those bullshyt mfs

I'm more of Richard Wright socialist whatever that means: I Tried to Be a Communist

Yeah that’s the problem trying to create solidarity with the American working class. They actively disdain intelligence, books, being worldly, and are extremely, extremely, selfish and materialistic.

On the opposite a lot of far leftists are sissies who have never swung a hammer.

I remember trying to explain the concept of high speed rail to some dry wallers, might as well have been explaining fire to a cave man.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Yeah that’s the problem trying to create solidarity with the American working class. They actively disdain intelligence, books, being worldly, and are extremely, extremely, selfish and materialistic.

Categorically untrue..... I gotta look at you sideways for even making a statement like this

 

[Mister Terrific]

Categorically untrue..... I gotta look at you sideways for even making a statement like this

Look up voting statistics and opinion polls for non-college educated. Germans in 1940 Germany were more progressive.