Deray Mckesson on the breakfast club :francis:

[Piff Perkins]

Him being Gay is a part of the growing idea here on the Coli and in real life/Internet people are trying to connect the struggles of the black community with the struggles of the Gay community.

And? It's a civil rights campaign, why wouldn't it be compared to other civil rights campaigns? There are states in this country where a gay person doesn't have the right to visit his or her significant other in the hospital during a life threatening moment. There are states where you can fire someone for being gay. Does anyone here think this shyt is justified, or not comparable to "separate but equal?"

The biggest difference between black/Hispanic/women/etc rights movements and the gay movement is the visual aspect. If a Hispanic man or a black woman walk into the room you know they're a minority/woman. That doesn't apply to many gay people, who don't "look gay." And yet Jewish and Irish people experienced a whole lot of discrimination at one point, despite looking "white." So yea they're comparable enough and I'm glad the gay movement has used various strategies that the black movements used.

I'm black. I'm a minority. I'm predisposed to have a sense of solidarity or empathy for fellow minorities. I don't know what it's like to be gay but I sure as hell know what it's like to be looked down on or feared or treated differently. Why would I cosign any minority being treated like that.

 

[mcdivit85]

I have an issue with black leaders who get into the intersectionality thing. Black people have all the problems we can handle just being black in a white supremacist society. So, I don't care to talk about homophobia, transphobia, feminism, etc. I have no patience for these types.

So, he loses me off rip right there. With this mentality, he's impotent in many ways. Plus, he's using the black cause as a way to springboard a media career, which will be used to speak on "issues that affect us all." No thanks. If the issues affecting black people are not enough for you, go somewhere else. We need all the focus we can get.

Peace

 

[KOohbt]

gonna force my self to watch this so i can study the enemy

 

[KOohbt]

people who are involved in other communities should not be given platforms. period. either be for genetic black african empowerment ONLY. or get the fukk from round my people. we gotta be stronger and vet these nikkas for real.

 

[Rell84shots]

And? It's a civil rights campaign, why wouldn't it be compared to other civil rights campaigns? There are states in this country where a gay person doesn't have the right to visit his or her significant other in the hospital during a life threatening moment. There are states where you can fire someone for being gay. Does anyone here think this shyt is justified, or not comparable to "separate but equal?"

The biggest difference between black/Hispanic/women/etc rights movements and the gay movement is the visual aspect. If a Hispanic man or a black woman walk into the room you know they're a minority/woman. That doesn't apply to many gay people, who don't "look gay." And yet Jewish and Irish people experienced a whole lot of discrimination at one point, despite looking "white." So yea they're comparable enough and I'm glad the gay movement has used various strategies that the black movements used.

I'm black. I'm a minority. I'm predisposed to have a sense of solidarity or empathy for fellow minorities. I don't know what it's like to be gay but I sure as hell know what it's like to be looked down on or feared or treated differently. Why would I cosign any minority being treated like that.

You're black but you seem to be oblivious to the anti-blackness in other communities.

 

[LEEeveryday]

listening:


nah son....wackos will absolutely fake some ambiguous sexual identity just to go into the womans bathroom.... He's underestimating how sick people can be....

The argument against THAT, is insufficient IMO

no Angela Yee, they will NOT do it anyway. The point is...it will be EASIER!

.... you can't change peoples mind if they have it made up already.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

So y'all don't like dude because of his voice and swag huh?

I don't like him because he's using unarmed black men being killed to advance gay issues

 

[mcdivit85]

And? It's a civil rights campaign, why wouldn't it be compared to other civil rights campaigns? There are states in this country where a gay person doesn't have the right to visit his or her significant other in the hospital during a life threatening moment. There are states where you can fire someone for being gay. Does anyone here think this shyt is justified, or not comparable to "separate but equal?"

The biggest difference between black/Hispanic/women/etc rights movements and the gay movement is the visual aspect. If a Hispanic man or a black woman walk into the room you know they're a minority/woman. That doesn't apply to many gay people, who don't "look gay." And yet Jewish and Irish people experienced a whole lot of discrimination at one point, despite looking "white." So yea they're comparable enough and I'm glad the gay movement has used various strategies that the black movements used.

I'm black. I'm a minority. I'm predisposed to have a sense of solidarity or empathy for fellow minorities. I don't know what it's like to be gay but I sure as hell know what it's like to be looked down on or feared or treated differently. Why would I cosign any minority being treated like that.

Well, I'm black. I don't identify as a minority because as a person of African descent, I'm not a minority anywhere on this planet. I don't know what it's like to be gay, and frankly, I don't care.

But even if I did, my larger issue would be my blackness since I've been tortured, enslaved and disenfranchised from a legal perspective on a local, state and federal level ever since my ancestors were forcibly brought here. Not because of any sexual orientation.

And I'm not alone in my thinking. So, as a black person, please do not place your intersectionality ideals on black people. There are many of us who do not accept it. Black people have enough problems of our own to take on those of others. Others that in many cases are silent when the issue only affects black people.

Peace

 

[Doobie Doo]

I don't care to Google it but it's a pretty weak move on your part to say that I'm misinformed and not explain how. Feel free to educate me on the law if I'm as ill-informed as you say.

And frankly, even if I were wrong about that law it doesn't change the fact that so-called transgender issues don't have shyt to do with black issues. You can't just pick out the one part of the post you disagree with and tell me 'Google it,' that doesn't help anyone.

No its a weak move on your part to have access to Google and still admit you are misinformed when I told you you are misinforned. The fact that you still dont know means you arent trying to learn You could have found outabout it before i posted this reply.

 

[Drones]

NO U

The burden of proof lies on the accuser, not the accused. If I'm misinformed, explain to me how. Otherwise you're just babbling.

 

[Kitsch]

 

[iBrowse]

He's the epitome of the non threatening black male which is great for the establishment. This is why he's popular. I hate all of these activists ideologies, I really do.

Why does he wear the same outfit though ?

 

[Piff Perkins]

Well, I'm black. I don't identify as a minority because as a person of African descent, I'm not a minority anywhere on this planet. I don't know what it's like to be gay, and frankly, I don't care.

But even if I did, my larger issue would be my blackness since I've been tortured, enslaved and disenfranchised from a legal perspective on a local, state and federal level ever since my ancestors were forcibly brought here. Not because of any sexual orientation.

And I'm not alone in my thinking. So, as a black person, please do not place your intersectionality ideals on black people. There are many of us who do not accept it. Black people have enough problems of our own to take on those of others. Others that in many cases are silent when the issue only affects black people.

Peace

It's a shame, really, given how logically bankrupt your view is. But you're right, a lot of black people feel that way. This idea that we are so focused on "our struggle" that we can't be preoccupied by anyone else's struggle doesn't make sense. I assume you're an adult, and thus should be able to do two things at once and have multiple independent thoughts a day. No one is asking for you to join a picket line and fight for gay rights. My point is simply that as a minority - and yes, you are a minority in this country whether you acknowledge it or not - you should have a general sense of solidarity with those who face similar adversity to their mere existence as an equal human being.

Furthermore the idea that being gay is some adopted sexuality and not something people are born as is pretty stupid at this point. As is the idea that "black masculinity" is somehow endangered by gay black men. Not to mention the fact that there are plenty of gay men who are masculine.

 

[Blackqueergenius]

I dont understand what the problem is??

 

[Blackqueergenius]

I get whats being said , and I think there's some confusion here if DeRay was an open flaming queen WHO MIXED IN HOMO ACTIVISIM WITH BLACK ACTIVISIM it would be a problem , HOWEVER thats not happening HE IS SOMEONE WHO CARES JUST FOR BLACK PEOPLE WHO HAPPENS TO BE GAY.

????

I MEAN SHOW ME YOUR ACTIVISM THEN.