Did Hip Hop get better or worse once NY lost it?

[Ghost Utmost]

Sonically (not lyrically) Ye’s first 3 albums shyt on all those

Production wise I take Q Tip over Ye. Especially his masterpiece MM.

Ye also has nothing that comes anywhere close to Shook Ones Pt II.

The of course Illmatic has many heavy hitting producers on there. So Ye shytting on every single one of them is quite a feat.

Or you're a Kanye Stan.

Either one.

 

[kingofnyc]

troll azz thread …. cant take this stupid shyt serious

 

[Diondon]

My nikka, do you look around and are proud of hip hop?

 

[DOSDUMUNI]

I can't even say shyt cause I have only heard one of these. Graduation.

But for instance: the Future album DS2.

What's a hit song off there? Do people still play whatever the big hit was? Post the most popular song from that album.

Mainly what I'm saying is: there's songs off the albums I posted that still ring now. Most of the more recent stuff comes and goes and people never go back to it.

Freak Hoes
Thought It Was a Drought
Stick Talk

 

[Fanservice]

Production wise I take Q Tip over Ye. Especially his masterpiece MM.

Ye also has nothing that comes anywhere close to Shook Ones Pt II.

The of course Illmatic has many heavy hitting producers on there. So Ye shytting on every single one of them is quite a feat.

Or you're a Kanye Stan.

Either one.

Kanye understood song structure on a deeper level than boombap rappers and had masterfully crafted beats laced with movie score level production values. That’s what made him stand out and get all the critical acclaim and accolades over “better rappers” in his prime. Sonically on a musical level, those old crusty dusty boombap albums just don’t compare.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Whoever said Hip Hop is better now

Name me just one album from the 2000s that you consider to be in the category of

Illmatic
36 Chambers
The Infamous
Midnight Marauders
The Score

Hell Hath no Fury, The Cool, madvillainy, supreme clientele, and like water for chocolate

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

nikka broke his back not to touch the subject of lyrics lol

Look at current ny rap and show me some lyricists

And don't mention griselda or some other rappers that been rapping since I was born but blew up more recently

 

[DOSDUMUNI]

Kanye understood song structure on a deeper level than boombap rappers and had masterfully crafted beats laced with movie score level production values. That’s what made him stand out and get all the critical acclaim and accolades over “better rappers” in his prime. Sonically on a musical level, those old crusty dusty boombap albums just don’t compare.

Ye hit his production stride between Graduation/808s.. and dove deeper into that cinematic sound around MBDTF

It was them "old crusty dusty boombap albums" that birthed his whole style.

 

[Fanservice]

Ye hit his production stride between Graduation/808s.. and dove deeper into that cinematic sound around MBDTF

It was them "old crusty dusty boombap albums" that birthed his whole style.

Go back and listen to songs like Jesus Walks, Never Let Me Down, etc. And a lot of Late Registration had cinematic elements as well

 

[JustCKing]

Hell Hath no Fury, The Cool, madvillainy, supreme clientele, and like water for chocolate

No on all fronts.

Hell Hath No Fury is overrated. Not one song on that album is iconic. Good album, but hardly the best Hip Hop album of 2006.

The Cool- Dope album. Nothing on this album is iconic either.

The others are classics, but still not icon status like those 90's albums.

 

[Rasille]

The question is why did the powers that be decided that New York was no longer viable? That forced rappers to try to copy the sound, only to get criticized for not being original. Yet people criticized NY rappers for not adapting, it’s damned if you do damned if you don’t.

 

[the elastic]

The Mixtape Game made hip-hop WORSE. Encouraged a diluted product and quantity over quality.

 

[maxamusa]

The Mixtape Game made hip-hop WORSE. Encouraged a diluted product and quantity over quality.

I think the mixtape game saved hiphop

 

[Space Cowboy]

Worse. They were right about southerners..

 

[the elastic]

I think the mixtape game saved hiphop

NY mixtapes maybe....