DJ's!!! :ufdup:

[DANJ!]

as far as DJing goes- certain things are for certain occasions. In a club/party situation, nobody's tryin' to watch a nikka do tricks and scratches 'nshyt. Maybe a long time back, but not in about 15-20 years, lol... it's more about dropping consistent hot records and building it and not losing the people on the floor. It's not as simple as it sounds.

If it was more of a hip-hop 'head' type event, they're more into that, and it'd prob. work more there.

I do think mixtape DJs lost their way tho'... and a number of them actually did have skills, but it gradually stopped being about that around the mid/late-90s. It became all about what songs were on the tape and having the newest exclusives. So that's when blends stopped being emphasized, scratching and doubling stopped. It eventually got to a point where nikkas could just say their names and give shoutouts while playing songs back to back, cause that's all nikkas cared about. It wasn't about blends or skill level anymore, they just wanted to look at the tracklist and have to have the tape. When I was a kid that was just called 'making a tape' but you weren't a 'DJ' just cause you could do that. You could do that with a tape deck. But by '98 or so, you could be the hottest DJ out by doing that. Crazy but true. I was the same way, cause I wasn't buying Clue tapes for no cuttin' and crabbin'... I just cared that he had that new Nas shyt or whatever... and I was a DJ myself, so I can see how it happened.

 

[wutang512]

Damn you nikkas killed my drive. If nobody wanna hear Dj's scratch and mix anymore I guess Ill stick to being a critic

 

[UserNameless]

Damn you nikkas killed my drive. If nobody wanna hear Dj's scratch and mix anymore I guess Ill stick to being a critic

Sad day indeed. As long as the true school DJs are still eatin', then fugg it.

 

[UserNameless]

http://smartcontentz.hubpages.com/hub/Why-DJs-should-play-vinyl-and-not-use-computers
smartcontentz


Over the past couple of years more and more DJs have converted to using computers to mix with. It's boring and should be outlawed from all serious clubs immediately.

Ok if you're a wedding DJ and have to play shlock and 80s tunes and requests and cannot possibly haul around kilos of records or CDs then I can understand why computer DJing is for you; otherwise, stop it now. And I'll give you 3 good reasons why.

Firstly, and most importantly, the sound quality is inferior. Using CDs is bad enough but using tiny MP3 etc files is terrible. There's a reason why MP3s are such small files, and that's because the alogrithm has 'taken out' a lot of the sound. On headphones you don't notice. In a club you do. Nothing sounds better than concord needles on a vinyl. The sound is fresh, organic and full. Especially for the lower frequencies of bass found commonly in techno and drum and bass. And furthermore, sound is transmitted nearly instantaneously through needles whereas there's often a lag with computers, particularly old computers with small rams.

Secondly, it ruins the visual appeal. Nothing beats seeing a DJ cueing up the vinyl and dropping in the next tune in just the right place and really hearing it. Also watching a DJ show his or her mastery by scratching vinyl is mesmerizing. It makes the DJ a musician and an awesome spectacle. It's live and always original because no 2 mixes or scratches can ever be exactly the same. With a computer they can be and that is boring and not worth paying to watch. I hate DJs who use serato and so give the impression they are playing vinyl. Watch them carefully - they never change the vinyl. It's window dressing.

And thirdly, computer mixing is often cheating. The computer programs have beat counters, analytics and even beat matching to do all the hard work for the DJ. Anybody can quickly sound as good as Carl Cox with some of the computer programs on the market, which is an insult to Carl Cox who is a god on the decks.

Luckily British clubs are not falling for this second rate rubbish and the DJs lose respect for pulling out their apple computers. Unfortunately, in Tokyo it's becoming more and more common for DJs to bore the crowd with their heads stuck in their computer screens. Even Tokyo based DJs are using computers - I presume because they aren't competent with vinyl or are too lazy to bring their record bags. I saw DJ Marky in womb last year and he broke my heart when he played 99% of his set using serato. Holding a deck upside down and scratching is farcical and belongs in a circus and not on the dance floor. That same year and again in Womb in Tokyo, I saw Ed Rush and Optical use 2 CDs all night long. It was pretty much impossible to hear the mixes. We the consumers who fork out big money to see these 'stars' deserve a lot better.

So if you want to be a DJ or take up mixing for a hobby then please buy decks and good needles and do it properly. Besides computers crash and then you'll look like a right twit while silence pervades the room while you re-boot.

As a footnote, my mate saw LTJ Bukem in Argentina the other day. He played a vinyl set - not a CD or computer in sight. Good to see the pioneers still holding true to their roots.

 

[Majestyx]

http://djzimmie.com/2013/09/05/end-of-djing/
long but good read.

 

[mortuus est]

Luckily British clubs are not falling for this second rate rubbish and the DJs lose respect for pulling out their apple computers.

WRONG!

 

[Truality]

If u dont own crates and didnt learn on vinyl ur a wannabe

if u disagree with that ur an idiot

 

[True Weltch Media]

Computers crash but turntable needles and tone arms break too. I use my vinyl and timecode at home. Ain't nobody trying to carry all them crates / turntables plus flight cases and a pa system. Its heavy as phuck and u need a truck to move em. All the local legends are using digital now only breaking out the vinyl for special Dj events or occasions

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Man it doesnt matter what you use. Its how you use it. I learned to DJ on cdj's no serato or anything because thats what I had and would beat match by ear then when I got tables I messed with scratching. Most DJ's today dont mix or scratch let alone drop any surprises etc. It's all very predictable. The problem is that back in the day the crowd could tell if a DJ was wack and let him have it. Now people dont questions it. Celebritys who DJ especially are the worst. Just playlist selectors really. I been partying for a while and the crowds now care.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Understand where you are coming from but as a regular dude that goes to a club to listen to good music, I could give a fukk how you're doing it.

This is why DJ's suck. The crowd couldn't give a damn.

 

[mortuus est]

This is why DJ's suck. The crowd couldn't give a damn.

why should they tho unless its a dj show they came to see?

dj's like peenut butter wolf and madlib still do vinyl shows, but people are coming to see them, not hear the latest drake song they already copped on itunes

regular dj's just play club bangers thats it, they dont do anything else, and the people dont care, most of the time they just drinking or looking for bytches

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

I agree with this thread way too much.

Ive been djing for almost 15 years now and the way the game has changed constantly has me shaking my head with disapproval.

On one hand, I welcome to advent of technology in the way DJing has evolved, but on the other I shake my head at how people can't even use technology to make themselves a better DJ but a lazier one.

DJs that can't beat match and trainwreck every mix. DJs that can't read a crowd. DJs that rely on the sync function or BPM counter to make their mixes and refuse to use headphones. And worse off, they get hired for gigs while actual skilled DJs can't or get slept on.

Don't even get me started on celebrity DJs and people who's connections in the industry circle command more money and coverage than those with actual talent.

Combine that with the height of DJ culture outside of hip-hop in the EDM world, and I just think DJing has reached it's peak and there's nowhere else it can go now.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

This is why DJ's suck. The crowd couldn't give a damn.

It's like here in NYC.

The people don't care if a monkey is behind the DJ booth playing music as long as they're drunk and high.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

why should they tho unless its a dj show they came to see?

dj's like peenut butter wolf and madlib still do vinyl shows, but people are coming to see them, not hear the latest drake song they already copped on itunes

regular dj's just play club bangers thats it, they dont do anything else, and the people dont care, most of the time they just drinking or looking for bytches

I feel ya. Only the big names really command attention. But the difference between PBW and Madlib is that they're producers that make their own songs...they aren't just DJs playin sets of other people's songs. But that's hard to do. It's hard to promote original material especially in this climate because everyone's doing and everyone's trying to break through the matrix.

 

[mortuus est]

I feel ya. Only the big names really command attention. But the difference between PBW and Madlib is that they're producers that make their own songs...they aren't just DJs playin sets of other people's songs. But that's hard to do. It's hard to promote original material especially in this climate because everyone's doing and everyone's trying to break through the matrix.

yes this too