Do Aframs have their own Sandwich???

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To her credit, there were a lot of hip hop industry people that worked with her who came out in her defense claiming she was legit and was serious about the authenticity of the culture.
Your point about many Black PhD and EdD who grew up in the culture is correct, but just because you have credentials behind your name, doesn't qualify you to tell the story. You can contribute your voice and even be considered a subject matter/expert, but I wouldn't hire you to tell the story.
Her background includes curatorial research and collecting, archival work, collections management, and program production.
This is the type of person that you want to tell a story, and unfortunately, were not promoting archivist work in the black community which is what I was alluding to earlier.
Because one may have first hand experience of the culture, that means one can only tell the story from that perspective.
Curators and archivist collect the many and varied individual perspectives and tell a story at a more macro and all-encompassing level.
The Obama Library right now is having an issue hiring black librarians and archivist because it's just too few out there.
That's about to be the new outrage in a minute when folks find out that the South Side library in the black side of town is being forced to hire white librarians. It's not their fault.
We need more folks getting into this line of work.
I understand your professor's disappointment but clearly the white students were in a better position to tell you all about your own black history in those first few days even though you and your families experience it first hand.

Let me also say that I’ve been getting into archival/cultural preservationist work for the past couple years for the exact reason of archiving Black American culture and it’s fukking expensive and not easy to get into. It’s not just that it isn’t being ‘encouraged’ amongst BAs, it’s also that the programs are expensive as hell, require years of intense schooling (like PhD level) before you can get basic research positions that may or may not even be paid positions, etc. It’s very difficult if you don’t come from money or that kind of background already. You can’t really just get into this line of work unless you’re prepared to pay out the ass and dedicate your life to it. Black Americans are already at a disadvantage for this type of work. But it’s also not impossible, Renata Cherlise is a Black archivist doing amazing work rn for example:

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Renata also sort of fell into the work and started after she found a box of photos in her basement. It’s easy to say PhD level ‘curatorial experience’ like this white chick had at the museum made her qualified for the job but cacs are overrepresented in the anthropology fields and have been for CENTURIES. And it’s not just because people aren’t interested, the fields of research methods are classist and racist as hell.

I highly recommend ‘decolonizing methodologies’ on this subject.

 
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Eh... non-profit ceo is not a curator/archivist. And looking at her background, which is in business, I wouldn't exactly hire her to curate an exhibit. To preside over the operations of an organization that specializes in the collection and preservation of historical items, sure. But these are two different roles we're speaking about. Get your point about other academics from the tri-state that have covered/specialized in the subject and if they have any interest in working at a library, send them to DC and Chicago!

What do you think of the following responses regarding Timothy Ann Burnside??

Producer 9th Wonder, a thoughtful voice in the hip-hop community, felt otherwise, taking exception to Burnside‘s position being questioned. He championed the contributions of Def Jam co-founder and pioneering producer Rick Rubin, former Columbia Records A&R Faith Newman, who signed Nas to Sony in 1994, and rapper MC Serch of late-80s hip-hop trio 3rd Bass, who co-executive produced Nas’ Illmatic with Newman. All three are white, largely respected figures in hip-hop. He then stated, “Ya’ll are really… in 2018… challenging white involvement in our culture when a majority of you need that very white validation from White-owned radio stations and White-owned networks to say you even like a black artist.”

Based on the weighted co-signs of 9th Wonder, Chuck D, and popular members of Black Twitter, Burnside works hard and is cognizant of her space as a veritable “guest” at the NMAAHC. Chuck D tweeted that she “has put maximum effort and time into preserving Black culture in the NMAAHC.” Entertainment veteran and artist manager Naima Cochrane, who worked with Beyonce, Maxwell, and John Legend during her time as a music executive, contends that“I know stories of pieces she fought to get into the museum, how she’s worked with artists on exhibits,” and “how much weight she gives the work.” Jamilah Lemieux, a former editor at Ebony, and columnist on issues of race and gender published in The Nation, The New York Times, and other outlets, noted that “I admire her work and I’ve seen her make space for Black folk” and “de-center herself.” But Lemieux also stated that there “ain’t no way in hell I can sit here and say I wouldn’t have had an identical reaction to Chubb’s if I didn’t know Tim.”


It’s Reasonable To Question White Curators Who Curate Black Art
long post, spoilering it so you can read in parts
The first sentence in my last post was about the respective directors of two major museums. The Black directors of museums located within the Northeast Corridor.....one of the centers of academia,culture,media, etc.
In this field, which is being framed as having a dearth of Black people working in it, we're aware of at least two Blacks who have reached the pinnacle of the adminstrative/management level of the field.
I then mentioned knowing of several Blacks working in other positions in the metro NY area, including the Newark Museum. I'm confident that within this group there are curators.That the museums are located in this area is important because this is the epicenter of the east coast academy, literary, cultural , media world.
The people operating in the art world around here aren't toiling in obscurity in tiny backwater town. Hip hop exhibits have been happening here for at least 20 years...since NYC is the birthplace of the culture. There are several people from this area who have better qualifications for the position. I'm certain of that.

The Obama Library, I'm not sure what kind search they are doing because if I were in charge I'd recruit in Memphis and Atlanta..the libraries, museums and the HBCUs in those cities with rich AA history.
Chicago is a higher profile city, in terms of media and art than either of those cities. I don't think I'd have trouble getting people to do lateral move to Chi town from MEM or ATL, much less for a Presidential Library .

I think the hire of the woman in DC was politics. I tried to find a "so called hip hop media outlet" article about the hire with quotes from legacy acts critical of the hire and I found NONE. Certainly some established artist disagreed with the move , and certainly publishing such quotes would have balanced out the articles I found. I respect Chuck D, I disagree here. White people being gatekeepers of Black culture rubs me the wrong way. Her experience and credentials would have had to blow me away to cosign the move, and it didn't.
There was a rock'n'roll thread here before.
The British Were KICKING The Americans ASS When It Came To Rock Music In The 60's (You Agree?)

A guy tried to turn it into a d measuring contest by declaring that nobody on the site knew more abou rock music than him. I flashed that Delta Blues Museum merch. on him and he fell back,right away.
I went down to there years ago.
the director is on the right in the spoiler
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Make sure to pick up a few dolma while you're at it :banderas:


Finish things off with a baklava :ohlawd:



Then it's time for a nap :blessed:

Them Mediterranean restaurants really the GOAT.

Great food and healthy as fukk for the most part.

Gyros, Greek or Afghan salad, kababs, hummus, the different soups, and that damn baklava.... Jesus! :ohlawd:
 

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po boy , no? I always figured that was the (AADOS, was it? ) go to sandwich? I'm sure other cases can be made.

I’ve always thought it was more of a regional thing, it isn’t something that can be found in most black neighborhoods unless you go to a New Orleans themed restaurant.

I’ve still never had one in my life.
 

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What the fukk is an Afram? :dahell2:

"their" :mjdrinking:


Cacs really outing themselves in these fukken threads.

I swear some of the "topics" that get posted here, it is almost like cacs are studying black people.
 

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What the fukk is an Afram? :dahell2:

"their" :mjdrinking:


Cacs really outing themselves in these fukken threads.

I swear some of the "topics" that get posted here, it is almost like cacs are studying black people.
Absolutely

But Afram sounds better than African American to me
 
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