Do you have a good reason to believe in god?
Hydrogen can bond to other elements, it does not become them.
This logic is flawed. Also you are assuming things I never said I believed.
Again, you are making a claim, the burden of proof is on you. How do you know this?
It's not that the electrons know anything. It's that the measurement requires an interaction with the electron, and it is this interaction that affects how they behave.
The problem supreme being believing people like myself have with Science is that it is not a perfectly complete story of everything and it will never be. We will always keep learning new things and using new methods to tell different conclusions explaining the same events that we will never fully completely understand. It will NEVER explain everything. It wont even get close. Last I heard nothing isnt even really nothing. There is always something there even in a vacuum, the reason we thought it was a vacuum is because the things there cancel each other out constantly.
The problem scientific,observable phenomena only, purist people have with the concept of a supreme being is that it cannot be proven scientifically and the idea of a supreme being is just too easy, too simplistic and too much of a cop out. It cant be that simple. Where is the data, where is the evidence, i need evidence!!!!!!!!!
This debate will go on forever. Everybody can make up their own mind and follow their own path. What is annoying is when people argue back and forth over the internet about this stuff when they both know its a personal decision.
The problem scientific,observable phenomena only, purist people have with the concept of a supreme being is that it cannot be proven scientifically and the idea of a supreme being is just too easy, too simplistic and too much of a cop out. It cant be that simple. Where is the data, where is the evidence, i need evidence!!!!!!!!!
This debate will go on forever. Everybody can make up their own mind and follow their own path. What is annoying is when people argue back and forth over the internet about this stuff when they both know its a personal decision.
Maybe science wont answer all question ever conjured, but the scientific method is the best route we currently have to objective truth. Also science doesn't claim to have all the answers.
This is not true. Yes we will always learn new things, but we do have a comprehensive understanding of many aspects or live already. For example the laws of motions and physics.
True, in some cases. Further investigations into these thing lead to new discoveries.
Not only scientifically but there is no measurable why to test for God or the supernatural at all. How do you detect the undetectable?
Actually the concept of a God creating everything is more simplistic. Once you believe god created everything, you stop looking for answers.
Why would you believe anything without evidence?
Truest thing said in your post, I agree.
Yet here you are. Thanks for your participation.
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Well, what's the alternative? If there is no 'G-d', there is no immortality which renders life an absurdity.
Human beings have no value, no purpose, no reason for their existence. They, along with the Universe, will cease to exist and there's nothing they can do about either.
All their activities amount to nothing for they are nothing and unnecessary. It doesn't matter if they act like Hitler or Mother Theresa.
Their ultimate 'destiny' is as meaningful as that of a mosquito and they will all end up in the same place.........the grave.
Are these reasons enough to believe? Who knows?
Human beings have no value, no purpose, no reason for their existence. They, along with the Universe, will cease to exist and there's nothing they can do about either.
All their activities amount to nothing for they are nothing and unnecessary. It doesn't matter if they act like Hitler or Mother Theresa.
Their ultimate 'destiny' is as meaningful as that of a mosquito and they will all end up in the same place.........the grave.
Are these reasons enough to believe? Who knows?
Meta Reign
I walk the streets like, ''say something, n!gga!''
What you don't understand is that assumptions are TRULY all we have.
The Big Bang is actually LESS logical than believing in God. It's an even grander assumption.
Wrong, atheist have mortality. Religion doesn't have a monopoly on morality.
Wrong, atheist have propose. Religion doesn't have a monopoly on propose and meaning.
This could very well be true. Why do we believe that humans are so important to the affairs of the universe? The universe was here before we were, and it probably will continue on after we are gone.
Our activities matter and are important to us. Are the interactions you have with your family not important? Are the interaction you have with your friends not important? Are the experiences you have in life not important? Our action matter to us and the people around us.
True to a certain degree. Some people's assumptions are based off of logic, reasoning, and evidence. Some people's assumption are based off of faith.
This statement is objectively not true. There is peer reviewed research and evidence of the Big Bang, there is non of God. Scientific fact is based upon evidence, not assumptions or fables.
Meta Reign
I walk the streets like, ''say something, n!gga!''
That peer reviewed research means nothing though. Especially if you consider it could have been the work of God if it did happen. That research literally doesn't matter.
What you call faith, I call reason. At the end of the day it literally makes more sense to believe we have all been deliberately created by a conscious being.
In your lifetime have you ever seen something create what it's not? Meaning have you ever seen 2 dogs lie down and create a cat?
What we are HAS TO by the laws of nature come from something like us or grander.
It's literally logical.
''What we know'' is always according to the best of our limited capabilities, it is something that will always keep changing. Science is always and will always be utterly incomplete.
Not true.
Science is limited by current tech and methodologies ... peer reviewed hyopthesi doesn't mean
anything because technically it's still a theory .... literally called " the Big Bang theory "
You can read up on particle physics and you'll see a whole host of speculation/uncertainty atheists accuse believers of
What evidence is there to back the Big Bang theory or even the earliest instances thereafter ?
Not true.
Science is limited by current tech and methodologies ... peer reviewed hyopthesi doesn't mean
anything because technically it's still a theory .... literally called " the Big Bang theory "
You can read up on particle physics and you'll see a whole host of speculation/uncertainty atheists accuse believers of
What evidence is there to back the Big Bang theory or even the earliest instances thereafter ?
This is the problem with Science as being a guide to it all.
Forget the big bang theory even. It seems the majority of physicists have accepted it as what really happened so we can accept that. Have you tried to find out what happened before the big bang? There is not going to be a consensus anytime soon.....
Or have you tried to get a definitive answer on how the moon was formed? Man, there are hundreds of things science is yet to explain. It will always be this way.
Science is a great way to gain knowledge and insight and as humans it is the best way we have but one can definitely see its limitations.
Another programmed response by a theist aimed towards anyone who expresses derision towards what you perceive to be a creator. Is it suddenly no longer possible to have an understanding of this reality and be in opposition of this entity whom you associate with benevolence?
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Something else is underneath all of your hostility towards a God you believe doesn't exist. What is it?