Do you have a good reason to believe in god?

[The Don]

How can you look around and not believe that there is a God

 

[InfinateOpulance]

This is the problem with Science as being a guide to it all.
Forget the big bang theory even. It seems the majority of physicists have accepted it as what really happened so we can accept that. Have you tried to find out what happened before the big bang? There is not going to be a consensus anytime soon.....
Or have you tried to get a definitive answer on how the moon was formed? Man, there are hundreds of things science is yet to explain. It will always be this way.
Science is a great way to gain knowledge and insight and as humans it is the best way we have but one can definitely see its limitations.

In my opinion, science is mankind's attempt to understand an infinite God. It's the closest we can get to him without faith being required.

 

[Antiquity]

Something else is underneath all of your hostility towards a God you believe doesn't exist. What is it?

You are working from the presumption that I long for an affinity towards your god. I do not. There is no hostility. There simply is no rational reason to worship a discarnate fictional creature that operates outside of this time/space continuum and possesses wickedness beyond that of any mortal being. For your god to be revealed as a mythical entity, your impression of stability and security comes to a halt, and your anxiety towards ceasing to exist arises. You continue to associate enmity with anyone who opposes your god when there is none. I am simply expressing my understanding of this reality as you are.

 

[Cynic]

This is the problem with Science as being a guide to it all.
Forget the big bang theory even. It seems the majority of physicists have accepted it as what really happened so we can accept that. Have you tried to find out what happened before the big bang? There is not going to be a consensus anytime soon.....
Or have you tried to get a definitive answer on how the moon was formed? Man, there are hundreds of things science is yet to explain. It will always be this way.
Science is a great way to gain knowledge and insight and as humans it is the best way we have but one can definitely see its limitations.

You can accept whatever you want. It's an unproven hypothesis based on
particle physics and the current way other universes are moving further from apart today

Sheer speculation ...nothing factual about it because we lack the tech and methodologies to
establish otherwise and we are supposed to blindly accept it.


I got my Masters in STEM ...i'm well are of the limitations of science when it comes to explaining
things but we are simply not smart enough or evolved enough to know all there is to know.

 

[QuintessentialMan]

In my opinion, science is mankind's attempt to understand an infinite God. It's the closest we can get to him without faith being required.

yeah. I agree.

 

[InfinateOpulance]

You are working from the presumption that I long for an affinity towards your god. I do not. There is no hostility. There simply is no rational reason to worship a discarnate fictional creature that operates outside of this time/space continuum and possesses wickedness beyond that of any mortal being. For your god to be revealed as a mythical entity, your impression of stability and security comes to a halt, and your anxiety towards ceasing to exist arises. You continue to associate enmity with anyone who opposes your god when there is none. I am simply expressing my understanding of this reality as you are.

If you call God a mythical entity I will not experience anxiety and ceasing to exist does not cross my mind. Ever.

You went through great detailed lengths to disprove God's existence. Every subjective noun you used to describe him was condescending.

You do indeed have hostility towards a God you don't believe exists. Since he isn't real to you, why debate this with strangers on the internet?

 

[Menelik II]

Can you prove what happens after death scientifically? NO.

YES you get eaten by maggots, or burn in an urn - thats it. there's zero evidence for souls or afterlife.

 

[InfinateOpulance]

YES you get eaten by maggots, or burn in an urn - thats it. there's zero evidence for souls or afterlife.

That's the physical evidence of death, but that doesn't explain what happens to the soul....assuming that you understand we are made up of a body, spirit, and soul.

 

[Menelik II]

That's the physical evidence of death, but that doesn't explain what happens to the soul....assuming that you understand we are made up of a body, spirit, and soul.

theres nothing more than the physical. zero evidence for spirt and soul

 

[Menelik II]

Very insightful answer (no sarcasm). I work in Bio Engineering so we have this discussion a lot.

So what scientifically happens to you consciousness?

We know what happens to you body (i.e your answer) but you know for a fact that we are not 'just a body'. Our consciousness is not eaten by maggots.

As YOU SAID there is zero evidence - of afterlife ...meaning you don't know and believers don't know.

Not attempting to be combative but that means scientifically you nor I know what happens to your consciousness after death, therefore we both have faith in our respective stances being correct. Yours = nothing. Mine= afterlife. Both take faith.

the only example of consciousnesses in the universe is physical, specifically the brain and nervous system. once the brain is gone so is the consciousness as a result there is no afterlife - this is not faith it is fact.

 

[Antiquity]

If you call God a mythical entity I will not experience anxiety and ceasing to exist does not cross my mind. Ever.

Because I oppose your belief system, you perceive me to be an intruder in your perception of the world and this existence, thus you designate labels such as "hostile" because you cannot comprehend someone countering your delicate understanding of reality. It clearly gives you pleasure to believe that I would hold feelings of spite simply for denouncing your creator and negating your sense of order.

You went through great detailed lengths to disprove God's existence. Every subjective noun you used to describe him was condescending.

Typical Christian response. You label non-theists as condescending and yet you believe that your unproven supernatural alchemy is unquestionably superior to science.

You do indeed have hostility towards a God you don't believe exists. Since he isn't real to you, why debate this with strangers on the internet?

I am here for my own merriment as you are. One is not forbid to speak on religious matters because they do not coincide with them. I am as entitled to speak on these matters as I am anything else.

 

[InfinateOpulance]

theres nothing more than the physical. zero evidence for spirt and soul

But there is also no evidence disproving that that the spirit mind and soul continues to live after the physical body dies. It goes both ways. As a previous poster said, both theories of what happens after we die require faith because neither theory, belief, or whatever you want to call it, can be proven

 

[DREAMZZZ]

How can you look around and not believe that there is a God

How do you draw a connection with the natural and supernatural?

 

[DREAMZZZ]

Questions we can not answer through science drive all of us to faith.

Not true for non-theist. Questions we can not answer drives us to explore.

 

[Alpha Male]

theres nothing more than the physical. zero evidence for spirt and soul

so you don't believe in energy? is that really science? you would deny that human beings are a source of ENERGY too?

when you unplug your tv from the wall you think that electric energy just disappears? of course not, it just returns to its source. the tv just taps into it.

who knows what kind of energy us human beings are tapped into, but when we're unplugged I don't see how that energy could just disappear.