Do you like Kamala's chances in 2024?

How do you see Kamala faring in 2024?


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acri1

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Once again, pretty much all that I have seen is "Kamala sucks", "Kamala is mediocre", "Kamala would lose easily".


I haven't seen any posts suggesting what Kamala should do to "increase her chances". Where are they? :feedme:

Honestly, Kamala's main problem is that she's female and black, and unlike Obama she doesn't have enough charisma to make up for votes she'd lose due to 'ism.

Obviously that's unfair but we saw what happend with Hillary. Not sure she can do anything about it IMO.
 

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If Biden's presidency is as mid as his supporters think it is, she will be so damaged by the oncoming 2024 primary that she will be food for the Republican nominee if she emerges as the candidate.
 

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I like her chances a lot unless the her and Biden's administration doesn't take care of a few key things in this first year. There are some slam dunks they could push through, and I wish they'd push a little harder for them. I can't say I'm not worried about a Trump-type populist like Tucker Carlson, or some other crazy right wing populist running in 2024 and having somewhat of a chance. Or even Trump again (even though I don't think he will run.)

I think it's very important for the Biden/Harris administration to make some substantial efforts to make changes that will improve working class and poor American lives here in the next 4 years. If they do, I think either one would have smooth sailing in 2024. If not, I honestly don't know what I think would happen.

Honestly, Kamala's main problem is that she's female and black, and unlike Obama she doesn't have enough charisma to make up for votes she'd lose due to 'ism.

Obviously that's unfair but we saw what happend with Hillary. Not sure she can do anything about it IMO.

That's definitely not a small aspect of it, but there's also just an aspect that people are suffering immensely right now, and they want their lives improved. If people are living like they are now, or worse, in 2024, a decent chunk of people (for better or worse) will take it out on anyone in Biden's administration by not voting for them.
 

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If Biden's presidency is as mid as his supporters think it is, she will be so damaged by the oncoming 2024 primary that she will be food for the Republican nominee if she emerges as the candidate.

I must've missed Biden and Kamala doubling down on Trump's policies

:ohhh:
 

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I haven't seen any posts suggesting what Kamala should do to "increase her chances". Where are they? :feedme:

I think she's largely going to be defined by stuff that's out of her control between now and 2024. The DNC doesn't realize it IMO, but things right now are as much about the haves vs the have-nots as they are about left vs right, or party politics.

People are fukking suffering, and it's only gonna get worse when the pandemic is officially "over" and all these protections get lifted that are preventing a homeless crisis at the moment. There are even some numbers that suggest food insecurity is a bigger problem right now than it's ever been in the U.S.

The Biden administration can't sit around and play politics like life is moving as usual. One thing that tripped me out about the 2020 race is that it seemed a lot like Biden/Harris were running like it was a normal election cycle. It worked out, because it's a pandemic and people hated and distrusted Trump so much, but the race was so much closer than it should've been.

People need real change. Right now. If there's not a serious press for Covid relief, minimum wage increase, forgiveness to some degree on foreclosures/rent, etc, things could be very tough for Kamala in 2024, even if it's not really her fault.
 

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I must've missed Biden and Kamala doubling down on Trump's policies

:ohhh:
They're definitely a breath of fresh air right now, but we are still in the honeymoon phase and feeling a lot of relief from Trump being gone. Biden already backed down from some of the Covid-relief stuff that frankly was undersold at it was. The worst thing you can do is give people false hope. He's got to deliver on substantive relief for people, or sleaze shyt is gonna hit the fan once these restrictions get lifted and we see a homelessness crisis the likes in which we've never seen. 25% of the jobs that existed a year ago (worldwide, not U.S.) are gone. 60% of the businesses that closed when the pandemic started did not reopen. The financial woes of Covid-19 haven't even begun yet.

@adexkola said "mid." He didn't day terrible. Unfortunately, I think Biden has to be better than a mid president during the next 4 years in order for he or anyone in this administration to not have some hurdles in 2024. Biden won, but Trump got more votes in 2024 than he did in 2020, and he increased his number of votes in literally every single demographic besides white men, ironically. The Dems are fukkin' crazy if they don't take those numbers seriously. It's not the time to be playing games with people's lives or playing politics as usual. I don't see the sense of urgency in the current administration that I would like to see, given that peoples faith in this country's institutions are at an all time low, and the nation is on the brink and is being pressured from every angle.
 

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I must've missed Biden and Kamala doubling down on Trump's policies

:ohhh:

@TheDarceKnight said it all. But I'll reiterate. Biden already is a better president than Trump. He also has enough room to do just enough, that he'll make it difficult for Harris to win the nomination or presidency in 2024.
 

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Honestly, Kamala's main problem is that she's female and black, and unlike Obama she doesn't have enough charisma to make up for votes she'd lose due to 'ism.

Obviously that's unfair but we saw what happend with Hillary. Not sure she can do anything about it IMO.

Pretty much.
 

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Honestly, Kamala's main problem is that she's female and black, and unlike Obama she doesn't have enough charisma to make up for votes she'd lose due to 'ism.

Obviously that's unfair but we saw what happend with Hillary. Not sure she can do anything about it IMO.


Her public speaking is left to be desired. But it's mostly she's a black woman.
 
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