Do you think people should get a license to have children?

[BelieveBeOK]

Not an original thought but haven't seen it discussed here.

There are some obvious drawbacks, the main being that it would involve more government control in your lives.

However, I counter that government already has near total oversight on what you can or can't do, ranging from arbitrary shyt like buying a TV (we have TV licenses in SA and the UK I believe) to how you can legally make a living (e.g. permits to operate a taxi, open a bar, practice law, start a company etc.)

This being The Coli and me being a bit of a cynic as well, it would be naive of me not to consider the possibility that the awarding/declining of licenses could be used as a tool to systematically eradicate groups deemed "less desirable" .

However for the sake of the discussion, let's assume it would be implemented in good faith .



The requirements for the licenses would not be overly stringent or exclusive in nature and would operate much like driving licences which are easy to get if you are a competent driver.

The main components for me would be financial means assesment (point-blank, can you afford a child?), stability of the environment you plan on bringing the child into and lastly a check to determine if any of the parents have a history of any serious violent or sexual offences.

By the above, I would assume that majority (maybe 70%?) Of the people who currently have children would still be able to have children but what this would do, is to prevent that bottom 30% who have no business bringing children into the world from doing so (the abusers, deadbeats and idiots).

Whilst it wouldn't be foolproof (tons of bad drivers still have licences) I think it would go someway to reducing the most severe instances of child-neglect, abandonment and abuse.

You probably couldn't own a giraffe without getting some sort of permit, even if you had the yard space and money for it, so why can anyone just unilaterally decide to bring human life into the world?

 

[CopiousX]

Just like in driving, we’d still have a lot of uninsured, unlicensed people popping out kids irregardless of this law, especially without an enforcement mechanism.

Literally, the only way to enforce this would be to take eggs and sperm from young folks and neuter them before they hit the real world. And obviously, this is a PR nightmare reminiscent of eugenics. Also, there would be the unintended effect of causing whites and Asians to get more license than blacks. Obviously, most of us didn’t start out in a responsible pairing of well, funded professional parents living in suburbia, so black people by and large would be impacted negatively by this.


I like your premise of having sane, financially stable parents produce offspring; however, investing in better education (both sexual and generally speaking) would bring about this idea more efficiently than a lincense. I admit that it’s an extreme supposition on my part, but I tend to believe that an educated person will do the cost benefit analysis, which you describe below, independently of govt intervention.

The main components for me would be financial means assesment (point-blank, can you afford a child?), stability of the environment you plan on bringing the child into and lastly a check to determine if any of the parents have a history of any serious violent or sexual offences.

 

[TEH]

Sounds like the premise for a dystopian sci-fi movie

 

[SnowflakesByTheOZ]

Some of my boys and I were talking about this last night. I definitely believe there should be some kind of screening that qualifies you to bring a child into this world. Taking financial and socioeconomic status into consideration.

 

[Wildin]

The only way to enforce this would be to kill the male and female reproductive processes and only allow it through government controlled facilitation.

Like instead of using a condom or taking birth control you'd have to have a prescription after a background check and screening to allow you to make a child.

People fukk and fukk around without the intent of having a child. That's just biology.

 

[jerzboy]

Yes, I argue with many of my friends. I stand firmly on believing that having kids is a privilege and not a right. With the government talking about lower populations and the push to have more babies, it would make the gov step up and make sure people have the means, funds and infrastructure to have kids.

Edit: I know many people that shouldn’t have had kids, and the turnout was predictable. While everything isn’t certain, and there are cases where children exceeded their trajectory based off their parents, there are far more cases where they haven’t; probability vs possibility. We need a reboot and need to trim the fat in multiple areas in society...

 

[5thbornpowerseed]

Yes. Because the government is our master...smh

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Having better financial means doesn’t automatically make someone a better parent. Being a good parent is a mentality more than anything else

 

[jerzboy]

Having better financial means doesn’t automatically make someone a better parent. Being a good parent is a mentality more than anything else

This, I believe this is key. U have to be selfless with kids. A lot of people just aren’t. I think screening should be in place to see if people have the right mental/mind state for children

 

[OliviaTwist]

I agree with the premise but it’s a VERY slippery slope.

Besides “allowing” people to have have children, what would be the criteria that would make someone or something qualified to make that decision for other people? Who’s approving the requests or whatever? What personal bias do they possess?

 

[OliviaTwist]

Having better financial means doesn’t automatically make someone a better parent. Being a good parent is a mentality more than anything else

Exactly. Plus when finances are equal how would you then determine who would be a good parent? Then who’s allowed to determine if someone can make a good parent?

 

[BmoreGorilla]

This, I believe this is key. U have to be selfless with kids. A lot of people just aren’t. I think screening should be in place to see if people have the right mental/mind state for children

Exactly. Plus when finances are equal how would you then determine who would be a good parent? Then who’s allowed to determine if someone can make a good parent?

There’s a reason that you see a lot of wealthy folks raise kids who end up being shytty adults

 

[TL15]

Some of my boys and I were talking about this last night. I definitely believe there should be some kind of screening that qualifies you to bring a child into this world. Taking financial and socioeconomic status into consideration.

So what if people who act on their biological urges do not pass this screening?

We aborting every baby that’s made to unfit parents?


Oh and who makes the screen? You’re trusting the government to give you the metrics on what it takes to raise a baby? What if they deem you unfit but you have a family of support willing to step in?

slippery slope


The answer is no. Extreme birth socialism is not the answer.

 

[MajesticLion]

Outta your damn minds.

 

[UserNameless]

This has been a discussed here in some form ad nauseam ... you negroes STILL refuse to use the search feature .


https://www.thecoli.com/threads/sho...renting-classes-undergo-psych-testing.596181/