SnowflakesByTheOZ
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Wasn't meant to be an attack and didn't mean to offend you if I did.what’s funny is that people tend to get so personally invested. “I sound like the type” bro you don’t know me. There’s no need for personal attacks or attempts at personal attacks. I’m good financially
back to the point:
What does “afford kids” mean?
you’re putting a financial threshold as if those costs can’t change.
If I have a car and can afford it and then lose my job, I can sell the car.
If I have a kid and can afford it at the and then lose my job and now I can no longer “financially afford” the kids then what?
And who decides the threshold? How do you stop biases? Let’s say you need a degree to have a child.
cool
So you’re going to make Lebron James go to college so he can have a kid?
Let’s say you need to make 100k a year?
so you’re going to stop someone making 85,000 who works remotely, who may have liquid or non liquid capacity to care for the child?
what happens when the government raises that threshold? One year it’s 100k, the next is 105. Are we going to force employers from each sector to raise their salaries so that reasonable employees can have kids?
what if someone is passionate about working in fast food and living modestly. They can afford a small one bedroom apartment. They plan on living a modest life on a modest wage. You’re telling me the government can say “well you’re not ambitious enough have children. In order to have children you need to make more money, and we deem that you don’t make enough” that’s the kind of world you want to live in?
There’s no sensible way to restrict people from having children. You know what the government can do:
invest in resources toward prevention
Invest in a better healthcare system (specifically prenatal)
Invest in education for impoverished neighborhoods.
No need to get emotional and type in all caps breh. It doesn’t help your point.![]()
You asked some questions. What does "afford kids" mean ? In a nutshell are you able to financially support a child until he/she is of age to support himself.
you’re putting a financial threshold as if those costs can’t change. - I never said that costs won't change, of course they will, the economy is always changing but here's the thing. There should be thorough assessments and reasonable predictions done. And if you (subject), according to the assessment of vicissitudes are going to be faced with financial difficulty then you are unfit for a child. Eg. Let's take a 24 year old girl who is making money from only fans and has amassed a large fortune in a short space of time, eg. Bhad Babie. She may meet the financial requirement now but because of the field of work she's in and because it's such an unpredictable space where you can be hot today and gone tomorrow, she would not be deemed eligible because her job is not stable enough. And her child will suffer if nobody wants to see her naked anymore.
And who decides the threshold? How do you stop biases? Let’s say you need a degree to have a child. - The threshold should be decided by the government or child services wherever you're from. Through studies you can arrive at a general figure as to how much it would take to provide a child with the minimum but comfortable standard of living. These numbers are not hard to find. Who said anything about educational merits ? I'm talking strictly financials.
Let’s say you need to make 100k a year?
so you’re going to stop someone making 85,000 who works remotely, who may have liquid or non liquid capacity to care for the child?
You don't need to overcomplicate with all these convoluted examples and weird hypotheticals. If you don't meet the requirement the answer is no. Simple.
what happens when the government raises that threshold? One year it’s 100k, the next is 105. Are we going to force employers from each sector to raise their salaries so that reasonable employees can have kids? Why would an employer have to do that ? That's like saying you plan to move into an apartment building where the rent is $2,000 but the owners have decided to increase it to $2,500. Would you go to your boss and demand a raise because your prospective home's rent has gone up ? Come on.
You see here's the issue and I can tell from your posts. You think that having kids is a right. No, having kids is not a right. having kids is a luxury and if you cannot afford the luxury then either you find a way to or you focus on something else in life. These are harsh pills to swallow but these are facts.
Again, not personalizing anything and didn't meant to offend you.