Doc Rivers says "LEBRON JAMES IS TOP 5 ALL TIME WITHOUT A DOUBT"

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I think Rivers does make a fair point about the nostalgia getting the better of people in certain aspects. The WC was very good though, but at the same time for ex., KG carried that T-Wolves team in a very Lebron-ish fashion with Troy Hudson and Wally Szczerbiak being their next best players; it was more so KG's greatness than his squad being that legit. The Trail/Jail Blazers were one of the more overrated teams b/c of the names of their roster (half of those names being flabby or malcontents).

It was pretty much 4 teams. Lakers, Spurs, Kings and Mavs.
And of those 4, ppl used to say how Duncan was pretty much carrying a buncha role players and a past his prime D-Robinson. Hence why Lakers demolished/swept them back2back until '03 when the Lakers own roster got a bit flabby.

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I actually feel the top 4 in the west that year match up well with the top 4 of the '11 East (Heat, Bulls, Celtics, Magic). Shame injuries and flabby'ness crippled most of those teams afterwards.

04-05 season was prob when the WC was the most stacked of that era, after the Lakers disbanded.

It wasn't even 4...it was just those 2. The one star per team era was still going strong. Thats the problem with comparing then to now. Teams that arent that great now would beast then. Lakers aside, who back then is beating today's Clips? And even that would be a battle. Teams that were elite then would be middle of the pack now. As great as Tim was, I just don't see him carrying a squad without another good, let alone great scorer, to chips in today's league.
 

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Doc saying fans low key like them figure skating attributes in players over brute strength.

Glad he mentioned the rose colored glasess folks where over the older players as well as fans not living in the present.
 

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:heh: And still got more MVPs, FMVPs, and rangs as da alpha dog of his team.

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...which would make those individual feats & achievements dat much more impressive.

Good lord, yousa fukkin moron. :deadmanny:


YOU SLOW NUTLICKER, HOW DOES PLAYING ON STACKED ALLSTAR SQUADS ON HIS WAY TO THE FINALS VIA THE EASIEST ROADS EVER MAKE HIS FEATS MORE IMPRESSIVE?


OH, I GET IT.. UR JUS TOO SLOW TO GET WHAT I WAS SAYING AND THOUGHT I MEANT THE ACTUAL ALL-STAR SQUAD


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YOU LOST YOUR PRIVELAGE OF EVER CALLIN SOME1 A MORON AGAIN, IDIOT
 

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YOU SLOW NUTLICKER, HOW DOES PLAYING ON STACKED ALLSTAR SQUADS ON HIS WAY TO THE FINALS VIA THE EASIEST ROADS EVER MAKE HIS FEATS MORE IMPRESSIVE?


OH, I GET IT.. UR JUS TOO SLOW TO GET WHAT I WAS SAYING AND THOUGHT I MEANT THE ACTUAL ALL-STAR SQUAD


:snoop:


YOU LOST YOUR PRIVELAGE OF EVER CALLIN SOME1 A MORON AGAIN, IDIOT

Either you really are legit slow & stupid or must have some weird fetish for gettin clowned.

Lol No way it's dis easy. :francis:
 

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Top 5? The problem is that's it's all subjective. Sometimes they go by stats, sometimes they go by accolades, and then sometimes rings. If it's accolades, it's not really fair...I don't think any player has more goal posts moved tban Lebron. My only knock against him is that he did rob us of some great competition by teaming up with Wade so early. He and Wade never faced in the playoffs, and I think that's an insult to Bball fans. Don't think he faced Bosh either...or Melo (as a Cav)

I still don't have him higher that Bird. I probably will after this season....he'll never be higher than Kobe on my list....so there's Shaq & Magic. But I do understand 4-7 if he, Kobe, Magic, Bird all fight for it. I think Lebron does the most with his quickness but the least with his power. He doesn't rebound well enough for his size IMO. You have to think, if they're saying Lebron is a freak of nature then you also have to consider Shaq. People forget about Shaq's quickness, running the floor, handling the rock like a PG, passing....and then you also have Wilt running the floor like a SG. Or 6'4 Chuck with the athleticism he had.

MJ - step on/through the most All-Time greats
Kareem - Leading scorer
Wilt - 50 & 25
Russell - prob the best defender of all-time by far. Of course half of his ish is goaltend, and illegal D'd for a good portion of them but he still dominated on the defensive end in his era so....it is what it is
Kobe 5a
Magic 5b
Bird 5c
Lebron 8a
Oscar - triple double is a triple double 8c
Shaq vs Moses vs Dream for 10
 

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If we're picking teams it would be hard to pick any player over Lebron, except for Jordan or Shaq. Even Jordan and Shaq couldn't get to the finals without a great supporting cast like Lebron has.


Lebron fills in a lot of weak spots on a team.
 

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YOU SLOW NUTLICKER, HOW DOES PLAYING ON STACKED ALLSTAR SQUADS ON HIS WAY TO THE FINALS VIA THE EASIEST ROADS EVER MAKE HIS FEATS MORE IMPRESSIVE?


OH, I GET IT.. UR JUS TOO SLOW TO GET WHAT I WAS SAYING AND THOUGHT I MEANT THE ACTUAL ALL-STAR SQUAD


:snoop:


YOU LOST YOUR PRIVELAGE OF EVER CALLIN SOME1 A MORON AGAIN, IDIOT
I swear I wanna punch this dude in the face with all my might yo....
 
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