Does anyone else feel like Blacks are forever lost in this world?

[Dameon Farrow]

This isn't controversial at all...I don't see how anyone can't see how integration was a bullshyt political policy aimed directly at adding to our international reputation and was not meant to be a real process....Charles Payne said it best really: integration was the policy while desegregation was the means to further destroy all autonomous black behavior...integration IS NOT what the black masses wanted...only the preachers and middle class wanted it...the black masses wanted federal aid to improve our schools, streets, housing, employment opportunities, etc...but the govt used our people as Cold War fodder....

Breh people will jump down your throat for speaking unkindly of integration. Nice to meet somebody else who feels a certain way about it though. I've ran into some older folks that feel the same way as well, which no doubt fits into your statement that the black masses weren't feeling it.

 

[Elle Driver]

Blacks will never have an even playing field for a long time. I don't know what kind of deal Caucasians have made to get and keep this form of power but it's amazing.

We need to study all the spiritual and religious systems that were invented in Africa. That will tell us all about how we rose and fell. We fell from grace a long time ago. Cant no man and woman come into another mans land and just take it. We were already conquered before others came to conquer us. The war on spirituality and religion is real. History proves that.

Whites study shyt. They really study and not only us but every other minority group on this planet. If you don't think that they are into everybody else's spiritual studies then you have to be joking. Word to the Cortès and his spaniards who conquered the Aztec. They study shyt. They new exactly when to conquer them and everybody else because they study our sciences. That's what they are def good at.

We need to definitely rebuild the black family. Truth is, every black person will not make it to
The promise land and not every black person is worth saving. But the ones that are, the ones that care just as much as you do. Teach them. Show them how to rebuild. We need to destroy our old ways of living and thinking. The black family needs to start to building in a today so we can sustain in a tomorrow. We need to start caring for are own brothers and sisters. We need to start saying no that's not right and teach what is instead of saying do what you want, it's your life. We need elders that are in their right mind to help rebuild our family. We need to start practicing ownership and start supporting us. ...I could keep going but I doubt I'll reach anyone.

Care for your family brehs and brehettes, I love you all.

I love you.

 

[Blackout]

American black people maybe, not africans.

This isn't controversial at all...I don't see how anyone can't see how integration was a bullshyt political policy aimed directly at adding to our international reputation and was not meant to be a real process....Charles Payne said it best really: integration was the policy while desegregation was the means to further destroy all autonomous black behavior...integration IS NOT what the black masses wanted...only the preachers and middle class wanted it...the black masses wanted federal aid to improve our schools, streets, housing, employment opportunities, etc...but the govt used our people as Cold War fodder....

Even with integration we could still succeed. Its just that our people need more discipline to use integration to our advantage and not let racist whites use it to theirs.

We also need more people who have pride in being black and pride in our culture and less people who put others culture over our own.

 

[kp404]

Breh people will jump down your throat for speaking unkindly of integration. Nice to meet somebody else who feels a certain way about it though. I've ran into some older folks that feel the same way as well, which no doubt fits into your statement that the black masses weren't feeling it.

THose that say differently are either black neo-conservatives (sambos) or miseducated about the current problems of today...Since the end of the black freedom movement, our people have regressed in every statistical category, including unemployment, high school graduation in relation to whites, net worth and income gap in relation to whites, incarceration, and we are being hypersegregated but this time its for political voting blocs...we are being disenfranchised again and people really don't see this....Its funny because next month, every classroom will be teaching how integration was so wonderful and Brown vs. Board of Education was so impactful...but these teachers will be saying it a classroom filled with 100 percent low income blacks or a classroom that is 100 percent white....pwople who don't acknowledge the tragedy that is black history with integration being a fail aren't looking at the raw data or they don't want to admit that the civil rights movement goals were not feasible for the black masses

 

[kp404]

Even with integration we could still succeed. Its just that our people need more discipline to use integration to our advantage and not let racist whites use it to theirs.

Breh read up on Charles Payne and how integration was used as public policy to create mass confusion and reintroduce Nadir practices throughout the nation...yea we could succeed with AN INTEGRATION...WE CAN'T SUCCEED WITH THE INTEGRATION THAT THE COURTS PASSED AS POLICY...read Brown vs. Board decision and you will see the most ridiculous language in court proceedings...its a hackjob committed on purpose, then the states got control of the policy and that was pure redemptionist, white supremacy right there....White citizens Council is all I will say on that...

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

When you think about it in terms of race, you automatically set yourself up to be disappointed...

 

[kp404]

When you think about it in terms of race, you automatically set yourself up to be disappointed...

Not really..there is some hope and optimism out there; very little, but there is optimism...plus it must be put in terms of race and class

 

[Sampson]

Are we strong enough to shun everything culturally that's self destructive? That would be a start.

 

[semtex]

Are we strong enough to shun everything culturally that's self destructive? That would be a start.

I'm a young buck (22) but it seems like black folk were on the right track in the 60s-70s and then just.....

 

[kp404]

Are we strong enough to shun everything culturally that's self destructive? That would be a start.

That would work but it would take a MASSIVE, expansive, and collectivized re-education of people and autonomy regarding educating our youth...black intellectuals must be the vanguard in the education component as we must get our hands dirty and go into the working class communities and teach them trends that lead to hegemonic systems and how to overtake them..again, it would have to be massive and alot of these dudes that talk shyt online and on screens like the Cornel West Wests and others have to actually go into the community and participate in social movements...that's the only way to change anything..it won't come from the top down..it will come from the ground level

 

[kp404]

I'm a young buck (22) but it seems like black folk were on the right track in the 60s-70s and then just.....

Yep...federal policy plus the conservative wave and this New Nadir of data shows that around 1978 is when everything started going to hell...then Reagan :jonfacepalm:

 

[Jone2three45]

I love you.

 

[Richard Wright]

Maybe broke blacks like the OP.

We do not own the means if production which produce the media images of us, do not forget that

 

[Leasy]

Man hell yeah

I tell people we are doomed for at least the next 500 years and people act like I'm being pessimistic. But you gotta call a spade a spade. Real talk

Things will turn around but not in our lifetimes and not even in our great great grand children's lifetimes

Sucks but blacks 500 years from now are gonna look back on our current day recorded history like

And trust me, they will zero in on these times because of Obama being the first black president during this time.

In order for shyt to change, you and I will literally not have to be on this planet anymore. We need a new crew inspired by the greatest leaders of our people.

It will happen but we will have been dead for centuries.

We are not doomed for the next 500 years where are you getting this from. As a people we gotten better in all aspects especially education but of course there is always some that are behind. Compared to the 1950s 60s 70s 80s we are doing much better. Our crime against each other is no where comparable to what we done in the 90s 80s alone. Crack and drugs destroyed our community and the family structure but not every group of people are perfect. We have some issues but it will def be fixed in the next 20 to 40 years from now. We have to stop playing the victim and stop tryiing to be accepted and be proud of who we are. I would like to add get rid of this fake religion we been praising too.

I'm gonna be the voice of controversy on this and say that it's been downhill ever since Integration. It destroyed the need for black owned businesses. Destroyed the need for our own schools. In many ways, it has bearing in destroying our family. The first too could bounce back but the Family is in disarray. Hard to get off the ground with that lacking so badly. I sometimes wonder if there could have been an alternative to the drastic move of integrating. If we needed better books and facilities with which to teach, wouldn't it have been a lot less condescending to simply supply us with it instead of instilling the we better blend them with whites mindset? It's a barely subtle way of saying we would give this stuff to you on your own but you'd just mess it up. Thoughts?

On the other hand, you could be the ultimate voice of pessimism/realism and say that not everybody can end up being a winner anyway(everybody winning in a way seems to be the definition of arriving that many speak of when you sit and think about it). We have many kats out here doing pretty damn good and many forms of help given to the community. It doesn't rival other races but neither does our percentage of the population.

I agree intergration by MLK was bad to be honest. We weren't ready for it and to be honest at the time we didn't need it. We have more own business money circulating in the community before intergration ya know. I believe this comes with the idea of being accpeted. Blacks want to be accepted so bad it is crazy man. We need to learn to provide and take responsibility in ourseleves and community.

 

[HoLLaBaCK]

It all starts at home in the living room. That's ground zero for the war to be fought.

This!! ^^

You cant even move on to the more complicated parts of the equation until you deal with this. fukk the bullshyt if your not IN THE HOME your not raising your kids!! Yeah u could be a stand up dude and pay your child support and stop by regularly but unless your in that house your part timing it (kids are a full-time job).

The black community will never even begin to move forward until we take the family nucleus more seriously!!