Dr. Dre Rejected Working With Michael Jackson, Prince, Stevie Wonder Outta Fear

[JustCKing]

Sound like an excuse according to you.

Is it because he did not want to order MJ around or was it because he's a Hip-Hop producer unable to leave his comfort zone?

Is it Oochie walie walie or One mic?

How is it an excuse according to me?

Dre specifically said he wouldn't be comfortable working with Mike and telling him to go back into the booth to redo lines. Where does Hip Hop play into this? Vocal arrangements are not necessary in Hip Hop, and you telling Michael Jackson to go back and re-record words, lines, and what not isn't going to fly the same way as telling Jay Z to re-record a word, line, etc. Why? Because it's not the same approach. Michael Jackson is a singer. Jay is a rapper. And the only reason I brought it up in the first place is because you wanted to make a point out of Babyface and R. Kelly producing MJ. They produce R&B, which includes arranging vocals. That's the world they come from. Dre doesn't.

And since we are questioning whether it's Oochie Wally or One Mic, take your own advice and answer my question.

 

[African Peasant]

How is it an excuse according to me?

Dre specifically said he wouldn't be comfortable working with Mike and telling him to go back into the booth to redo lines. Where does Hip Hop play into this? Vocal arrangements are not necessary in Hip Hop, and you telling Michael Jackson to go back and re-record words, lines, and what not isn't going to fly the same way as telling Jay Z to re-record a word, line, etc. Why? Because it's not the same approach. Michael Jackson is a singer. Jay is a rapper.

And since we are questioning whether it's Oochie Wally or One Mic, take your own advice and answer my question.

You're the one who came up with the 'he's Hip-Hop producer' angle to explain why he was afraid to work with MJ and Prince. You already forgot?

Too much Juelzing.

The reality remains he chickened out. Don't get mad at us, get mad at him.

 

[Hannibal Fox]

Yup.

Perfectionist like MJ isn’t gonna let Dre take forever to come up with something.

When he sought Teddy out, dude flew to California with a ton of heat and wound up helping MJ make the best New Jack album of all time.

Look at Teddy banging this groove out for “She Drives Me Wild”. I rock with Dre but no damn way is he doing this in real time with goddamn Bill Botrell 3 feet away. This is a semi-rough demo with barely any vocal and you already KNOW it’s a smash

That's kinda unfair, Teddy Riley is a legitimate sorcerer breh

 

[C-Styles]

And the whole, well this producer worked with Michael Jackson and Prince is laughable. If people don't even acknowledge or mention said tracks, it proves Dre's point. Yes, it looks great that you have a Prince, Michael, or Stevie track on your resume, but if it's not a song that people even talk about or remember or hace to look up, what is the point?

and if you really think about it, Dark Child produced half the "invincible" album which most people can't name half the joints on there let alone any that he produced besides "You rock my world"

also, Tyreese has a writing credit on "2000 Watts yet NO ONE ever mentions him working on a joint with Mike and the only thing he starting to be known for is being a goof on the fast n furious movies instead of the singer that he is

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

Tupac coming to Death Row = Dr. Dre’s experience workinb with superstars he didn’t create

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

There's truly some ignorant idiot trash posters in The Booth. Let's look at the credits to "You Are Not Alone"

Produced By
Michael Jackson & R. Kelly
Written By
R. Kelly
Synthesiser & Programming
Peter Mokran, Andrew Scheps & Steve Porcaro
Background Vocals
R. Kelly

^^^ I'm guessing this exposes R. Kelly considering he didn't do programming or the synthesizer on this song


Credits to "Billie Jean":

Produced By
Quincy Jones & Michael Jackson
Written By
Michael Jackson
String Conductor
Jeremy Lubbock
String Arranger
Jerry Hey
Synthesizer Programmer
Bill Wolfer
Fender Rhodes
Greg Phillinganes
Drums
Leon “Ndugu” Chancler
Synthesizer
Michael Boddikker, Greg Smith & Bill Wolfer

Credits to "Human Nature":

Produced By
Quincy Jones

Written By
John Bettis & Steve Porcaro

Synthesizer Programmer
Steve Porcaro

Arranger
David Paich, Steve Lukather & Steve Porcaro

Guitar
Steve Lukather

Drums
Jeff Porcaro

Percussion
Paulinho da Costa

Emulator
Michael Boddikker

Synthesizer
Bill Wolfer, Greg Smith & David Paich

I could post more, since ignorant, idiot posters on The Booth actually think bringing in session musicians and having co-producers somehow exposes a producer's lack of talent.

Look at this bytch ass fakkit butt hurt and posting multiple times like he dude's new wife and shyt!


Clown ass p*ssy.

 

[JustCKing]

Look at this bytch ass fakkit butt hurt and posting multiple times like he dude's new wife and shyt!


Clown ass p*ssy.

I'm not the only one who has multiple posts in this thread, but I see you're hurt by the truth since mine's was the only post you quoted. So I guess the other posters who posted multiple times must be new wives.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

I'm not the only one who has multiple posts in this thread, but I see you're hurt by the truth since mine's was the only post you quoted. So I guess the other posters who posted multiple times must be new wives.

Kill yaself you sissy!
Neg and ignore list

 

[FunkDoc1112]

That's a producer's job though.

So if an artist brings him in, they should expect for him to do the driving and work the songs through his direction.

Right - producers are basically the equivalent to movie directors. When an artist wants to work with you, it's for your input and direction. Any competent artist is gonna respect the producer's approach just like an actor does what the director asks of them.

 

[Piff Perkins]

I could be wrong but I don't think Michael Jackson worked with a producer who couldn't read/write music. Quincy Jones, Teddy Riley, Jimmy Jam, Rodney Jerkins, Babyface...they were all prolific musicians or writers. Do I think Dre could have produced for him? Sure, since he'd have people with him who could write. But I get why Dre would have thought it could go wrong.

Flip side I think Prince would have eventually walked out or cancelled sessions once he realized Dre couldn't play/write.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

Riley, Darkchild, and R. Kelly didn't have that problem because what they gave Michael Jackson isn't out of their wheel house or comfort zone. Riley gave Michael Jackson New Jack, Darkchild gave MJ typical Darkchild, and the R. Kelly's "You're Not Alone" is basically an R. Kelly song with Michael Jackson vocals.

Michael also made Darkchild better as a producer. When they first started working together, Darkchild was giving Michael songs similar to "You Rock My World," but they were rejected. That's how you end up getting songs like "Unbreakable" and "Threatened." Michael told Darkchild that he hated how primitive drum patterns were at the time and he had him go to the junkyard and bang on random objects. Darkchild took a recorder with him and everything.

 

[Amo Husserl]

Dr. Dre ain't the Stanley Kubrick of hip-hop, mans needa quit pump fakin'. He the west coast Diddy, that's all.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

I could be wrong but I don't think Michael Jackson worked with a producer who couldn't read/write music. Quincy Jones, Teddy Riley, Jimmy Jam, Rodney Jerkins, Babyface...they were all prolific musicians or writers. Do I think Dre could have produced for him? Sure, since he'd have people with him who could write. But I get why Dre would have thought it could go wrong.

Flip side I think Prince would have eventually walked out or cancelled sessions once he realized Dre couldn't play/write.

R. Kelly couldn't read, or write.....or math, but he worked with Michael. Because he was still a person. He put on his pants one sleeve at a time just like everyone else.

 

[Big Boss]

I could be wrong but I don't think Michael Jackson worked with a producer who couldn't read/write music. Quincy Jones, Teddy Riley, Jimmy Jam, Rodney Jerkins, Babyface...they were all prolific musicians or writers. Do I think Dre could have produced for him? Sure, since he'd have people with him who could write. But I get why Dre would have thought it could go wrong.

Flip side I think Prince would have eventually walked out or cancelled sessions once he realized Dre couldn't play/write.

Also egos might have clashed

 

[Big Boss]

How is it an excuse according to me?

Dre specifically said he wouldn't be comfortable working with Mike and telling him to go back into the booth to redo lines. Where does Hip Hop play into this? Vocal arrangements are not necessary in Hip Hop, and you telling Michael Jackson to go back and re-record words, lines, and what not isn't going to fly the same way as telling Jay Z to re-record a word, line, etc. Why? Because it's not the same approach. Michael Jackson is a singer. Jay is a rapper. And the only reason I brought it up in the first place is because you wanted to make a point out of Babyface and R. Kelly producing MJ. They produce R&B, which includes arranging vocals. That's the world they come from. Dre doesn't.

And since we are questioning whether it's Oochie Wally or One Mic, take your own advice and answer my question.

Facts