"Drake Brought Lyricism Back" - DJ Premier

[Johnny Kilroy]

What the **** is Drake gonna have to do to get his props???

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Seems like niqqas just hate him just to be hating...

If i'ont like it i'ont that don't mean that I'm hatin.

 

[Harry B]

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And regarding Drake, how did he bring lyricism back? Who has entered the game since BIEH who is "lyrical"? Who stepped their shyt up cause of Drake?

HARD, not impossible.

You won't get a Lil Scrappy, Yung Joc, Soulja Boy, Dem Franchize boy etc out of nowhere dropping top 5 albums. But of course 1 or another 2 chainz who is a rapper with the strongest charisma in a long time. One of the funniest who also can spit bars when he wants to. He's got them bars, he's not just all swag and beats.

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2 Chainz gathered allround respect in the game from The Wu, Lox type of dudes Jay-z, Kanye West type of dudes, Jeezy & Ross type of dudes and wack rappers as well.

 

[BlackZilla]

I wouldn't say that Drake brought lyricism back...more like he became successful because he can actually rap, in a sea full shortbus rappers.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

HARD, not impossible.

You won't get a Lil Scrappy, Yung Joc, Soulja Boy, Dem Franchize boy etc out of nowhere dropping top 5 albums. But of course 1 or another 2 chainz who is a rapper with the strongest charisma in a long time. One of the funniest who also can spit bars when he wants to. He's got them bars, he's not just all swag and beats.

[VIDEO] 2 Chainz Feat Jadakiss - One day at a time (Directed by Jim Jones) - YouTube

Young Jeezy - Count It Up ft. Tity Boi - Official Video (DjBwest) - YouTube

2 Chainz gathered allround respect in the game from The Wu, Lox type of dudes Jay-z, Kanye West type of dudes, Jeezy & Ross type of dudes and wack rappers as well.

Who has dropped 5 albums since Drake went mainstream

 

[charmander]

this reminds me of how mad these old fakkits were when KRS One called weezy the greatest rapper of all time

they just cant accept their washed up heroes bowing down and paying homage to YMCMB

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

What the **** is Drake gonna have to do to get his props???

Spoiler

Seems like niqqas just hate him just to be hating...

I thought Drake fans didn't care what old heads had to say

 

[Harry B]

Who has dropped 5 albums since Drake went mainstream

Top 5 albums since Drake went mainstream?

J. Cole, Kendrick Lamar, Wale, Ye, Kid Cudi, Wiz Khalifa, Meek Mill, Jay-z, Nas, Lil Wayne, 2 Chainz, Big Sean, T.I., Young Jeezy, Rick Ross, Fabolous, MMG, Mac Miller, Macklemore, Tyga, Raekwon, Ludacris and probably a few more


Are the only ones I can think of and ALL of them put a emphasis on lyricism to a certain degree most of them a lot. As you can see none of them are Dem Franchize Boyz or D4L or Lil Jon going multi platinum type of rappers and half of them are new generation rappers.


Then we have people like Childish Gambino who sell more independently than rappers like Waka Flocka Flame with mega hits and super commercial stars featuring. We also have a lot of rappers on the come up buzzing right now without radio and shyt like that such as Schoolboy Q, Action Bronson, Joey Badass, Ab-Soul, Freddie Gibbs, Kid Ink and more that might debut top 5 with their major label debuts.


As I said I don't think it's Drake alone, but this whole new generation of rappers and hiphop fans. And Drake is one of the prominent leaders of the new generation so some of the props must fall on him.

 

[head shots101]

Damn premo back on that coke again?

 

[DEAD7]

He should have said "back to mainstream music".

 

[DougFunnY]

Good to see Drake gettin the props he deserve

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Top 5 albums since Drake went mainstream?

J. Cole, Kendrick Lamar, Wale, Ye, Kid Cudi, Wiz Khalifa, Meek Mill, Jay-z, Nas, Lil Wayne, 2 Chainz, Big Sean, T.I., Young Jeezy, Rick Ross, Fabolous, MMG, Mac Miller, Macklemore, Tyga, Raekwon, Ludacris and probably a few more


Are the only ones I can think of and ALL of them put a emphasis on lyricism to a certain degree most of them a lot. As you can see none of them are Dem Franchize Boyz or D4L or Lil Jon going multi platinum type of rappers and half of them are new generation rappers.

Every rapper puts an emphasis on lyricism "to a certain degree", you can't be a rapper without lyrics

But lyrics are at the bottom of the list of priorities for dudes like Future, Chief Keef, 2 Chains... these dudes are the opposite of lyrical

Yet all of them are in the category of your "top 5 (thousand)"

Then we have people like Childish Gambino who sell more independently than rappers like Waka Flocka Flame with mega hits and super commercial stars featuring. We also have a lot of rappers on the come up buzzing right now without radio and shyt like that such as Schoolboy Q, Action Bronson, Joey Badass, Ab-Soul, Freddie Gibbs, Kid Ink and more that might debut top 5 with their major label debuts.

Childish Gambino basically IS Drake so that's ONE artist you can say was directly influenced by him. But can you explain how Drake influenced Schoolboy Q, Action Bronson, Joey Badass, Ab-Soul, Freddie Gibbs, Kid Ink etc.?

How did Drake bring lyricism back, when he was rapping like Little Brother before he blew, and blew up by singing + dumbing his lyrics down???

How is sing songy Weezy flow biting Drake more lyrical than say... IWW Nas? Pun? Keep it modern, OK... Kendrick? Pre-heroin Charles Hamilton? If Drake is lyrical who isn't?

As I said I don't think it's Drake alone, but this whole new generation of rappers and hiphop fans. And Drake is one of the prominent leaders of the new generation so some of the props must fall on him.

So in other words, Drake DIDN'T bring lyricism back.

 

[Harry B]

So in other words, Drake DIDN'T bring lyricism back.

I've not said that Drake brought it back don't know why you're think that I said that.

I've stood firm by my opinion that Drake is the most prominent leader of the new generation. So he deserves more props than anyone from lyricism becoming relevant, but he's just one of many. If you're being extreme you could say like Premo cause that'll get you headlines.

And 2 chainz is the only one who doesn't put lyrics as his #1 priority of all the rappers I mentioned with a TOP 5 album as in BILLBOARD TOP 5 which describes what people are fukking with.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I've not said that Drake brought it back don't know why you're think that I said that.

I've stood firm by my opinion that Drake is the most prominent leader of the new generation. So he deserves more props than anyone from lyricism becoming relevant, but he's just one of many. If you're being extreme you could say like Premo cause that'll get you headlines.

And 2 chainz is the only one who doesn't put lyrics as his [URL=http://www.the-coli.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] priority of all the rappers I mentioned with a TOP 5 album as in BILLBOARD TOP 5 which describes what people are fukking with.

I don't know how you do, but I don't give props to people who don't deserve them. Being a #1 artist doesn't mean you are a leader or responsible for everything going on. Drake sounds nothing like Jeezy who sounds nothing like Raekwon who sounds nothing like Ludacris. So how does Drake being #1 = him influencing people who have been in the game before him and still sound nothing like him?

Are there people Drake influence, sure, but he didn't bring lyricism back, nor is he some genre wide trendsetter. Its never been like that.

 

[Harry B]

I don't know how you do, but I don't give props to people who don't deserve them. Being a #1 artist doesn't mean you are a leader or responsible for everything going on. Drake sounds nothing like Jeezy who sounds nothing like Raekwon who sounds nothing like Ludacris. So how does Drake being #1 = him influencing people who have been in the game before him and still sound nothing like him?

Are there people Drake influence, sure, but he didn't bring lyricism back, nor is he some genre wide trendsetter. Its never been like that.

Well a lot of people give Drake props, specially a lot of rappers.
A lot of rappers probably don't (never heard of them).

We can't make any statistical inference of whether he do or don't deserve props. All we know is a lot of people think he deserves the props, including highly respectable figures in hiphop. Others don't you being one of my few references to those people. But you're just as entitled to your opinion as Premo.

And I've yet to see anyone say that he had direct influence on every rapper, besides yourself.
What people is saying it that he had influence on the game, labels and it's fans, to start accepting lyrical skills, technical skills etc as the main factors in mainstream hiphop again. Cause obviously it wasn't before his generation.

 

[Harry B]

We can't say that Drake is the one that will make Mac Miller put out album singles bigging up De La Soul

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But one can easily make a case for major labels pushing lyrical rappers again and show young rappers that it still was possible to attract a fanbase with lyricism. Which is enough to give him props.