(Was Coli searching threads on Producing to find some new tutorials and whatnot. Found this thread. Figured I'd give my thoughts on the matter. Plus I'm an HS87 Stan. So here we go.)
I heard Hitboy post or lurks here
Oh, word? I wonder who he could be.
The funny part about this, is that people act like stock shyt somehow makes people frauds..... but the reality is that if it was so easy to do, they'd be doing it and hanging out with all these rappers and getting deals.
Exactly. Sure, he didn't come up with the melody himself. But you still thought the beat was hot right? So it doesn't matter. Jay Z and Kanye thought it was hot enough. And that was enough for him. That same beat got him signed to GOOD, where he made Clique and Cold (which ALSO were hot and was played everywhere) and now he's on Interscope with HS87. All off that sample pack. So the fact is.. nikkas lost.
...Plus, he had originally sent it to other rappers including Pusha, and he didn't want it. So had Pusha taken the beat, it wouldn't have made the impact that it did. When you get the right people on the right beat, you get a hit. That's what happened here.
also may i add to this thread that bit boy is one of those guys that makes beats everyday so it could off been something like him making beats and playing around with shyt then kept those beats in the stash untill he sent them out and they got picked
Actually, I think it was the interview he did on Sway that he said Cold, NIP and Clique were actually older beats he made a while ago. He was making radio hits from when he was still in his bedroom, from what he was saying, so it seems like when opportunity knocked, he went back to some of his older shyt, cleaned it up and sent it off. So those beats could've very well been made during the point in time he wasn't as nice. And if that's the case, then it's even more justified cause he probably didn't think that beat would ever get used either.
he used a fukkin loop....big fukkin deal....his drums...and his mixing were all his own....go recreate that beat 100%...i'll wait...mix and everything...
some of teh greatest beats were simple loops....u don't need a fukkin orchestra to create crack...
fukkin somewhereinamerica off the last hov album was a simple loop...but dope as fukk
Which ironically, was also done by the same dude.
Plus, if anyone really feels like Hit-Boy can't really do work, it sounded like chopped up the same loop up and added some effects to it and did this:
Which is arguably a much better beat than nikkas In Paris.
I'll wait....
it's basically deleted off the face of the internets now tho
