Fellas would you date a Feminist?

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Feminism is divided in radical and liberal feminism. What each one of them believes sometimes varies, but there are certain traits that are easy to pick up. There are radical feminists that believe women can't be happy as housewives, for example. There are even some to consider penetration as a form of submission/oppression. Liberal feminism acknowledges that each women is an individual and that we should not restrict ourselves to customary gender roles if it's not in our best interest. Whether we are nuns, whores, business women or housewives, we should be making our personal choices by being reminded of our autonomy.

I'm not a great liberal feminist because I'm a little judgmental of submission kinks, as I think they open doors for bigger problems (such as the objectification said women, etc.) but I'm not against it either, so to speak.

So in summary, I agree with such principles:

- There is male privilege, since males occupy most positions power.
- Gender roles should not be promoted because:
- Every woman is an individual. And if they're simple/non-ambitious it's probably because they were raised in environments that conditioned them to be confined in their own gender. Much like some blacks are ghetto because... Well, they live in ghettos.

That was well articulated.

However, I'm curious about your thoughts on gender roles. What type of man appeals to you, if you don't mind me asking? Just soaking up information for continued convo.
 

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I have and I would. A woman who is comfortable with the oppression of women would get a :francis: :camby: from me. But I don't even know what "feminism" is anymore. It's almost so broad as to be meaningless based on who I see claiming the label.

I used to say I was a feminist or supported it. I don't say that anymore. I just say I support women's liberation. :yeshrug:
 

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Because feminists use black women to fulfill their agenda then throw you to the garbage once they're done with you. Feminism is a movement for white women, by white women. The only reason they wanted black women to join was to use your numbers.



There's volumes of evidence proving the feminist movement has gone out of its way to disenfranchise black women. And instead of black women coming together and creating something of your own created for black women by black women, you'd rather adapt the ideology of the women who have worked to ensure the destruction of your people.


I think you're a little confused. Sure, some black feminists went on to call themselves womanists instead.
"A rose by any other name is still a rose, though"
I'm not a white woman's shadow for I am not seeking white feminist validation. I acknowledge their oppression by white males but I can't necessarily speak for them. A lot of black feminists have distanced themselves from white feminism to focus on black woman, but that shouldn't mean I should turn against white girls either. Essentially, I don't care what they care about, my principles remain the same and my focus primarily remains on black women.
 

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Feminism is divided in radical and liberal feminism. What each one of them believes sometimes varies, but there are certain traits that are easy to pick up. There are radical feminists that believe women can't be happy as housewives, for example. There are even some to consider penetration as a form of submission/oppression. Liberal feminism acknowledges that each women is an individual and that we should not restrict ourselves to customary gender roles if it's not in our best interest. Whether we are nuns, whores, business women or housewives, we should be making our personal choices by being reminded of our autonomy.

I'm not a great liberal feminist because I'm a little judgmental of submission kinks, as I think they open doors for bigger problems (such as the objectification said women, etc.) but I'm not against it either, so to speak.

So in summary, I agree with such principles:

- There is male privilege, since males occupy most positions power.
- Gender roles should not be promoted because:
- Every woman is an individual. And if they're simple/non-ambitious it's probably because they were raised in environments that conditioned them to be confined in their own gender. Much like some blacks are ghetto because... Well, they live in ghettos.



:why: Define simple/non-ambitious? I mean that sounds like the typical condescending and elitist white feminist mindset that turns off so many women to feminism. That outlook is partly why 80% of women don't subscribe to modern day feminism. You do realize how arrogant that comes off as?
 

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That was well articulated.

However, I'm curious about your thoughts on gender roles. What type of man appeals to you, if you don't mind me asking? Just soaking up information for continued convo.

Thanks! Yeah, you can ask whatever.
I don't mind women who feel comfortable in traditional positions, in being submissive and dependent on a "strong man." It's not for me, though. I grew up with an immense sense of pride, so that means I even have issues accepting help from my family because I don't want to be a nuisance. I'd hate to go on a date and feel like I'm being taken cared of like a child. It's a turn off, especially since I don't think it comes from a genuine place. If someone's paying your meal, you're entertaining the idea that you'd have to repay them back in SOME way. I'm not about that life.

A type of guy that appeals to me is someone who is just like me in most ways. Considerate, mature (no playas or mind gamers), straight-forward, passionate about their hobbies, inquisitive and selfless when truly in love.
 

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:why: Define simple/non-ambitious? I mean that sounds like the typical condescending and elitist white feminist mindset that turns off so many women to feminism. That outlook is partly why 80% of women don't subscribe to modern day feminism. You do realize how arrogant that comes off as?

:comeon:
You don't have to browse too much of this website to find something along the lines of: "Women are stupid/child-like." You're calling me arrogant when most generalizations about women come from men?
Quite frankly, in my opinion, most people aren't actually self-aware, man or woman, but I think woman are especially raised not to pursue certain hobbies, etc.
 

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"It's not whitey's fault that blacks remain in poverty. It's easier for a black person to get a job than a white person nowadays. I see blacks everywhere and you all go about spending money on weed and jordans."

With that being said, I don't think you actually care about what's true or what isn't. You're too worried about being right instead of being righteous. I've seen this movie before. Peace out, man.

the fukk you talking anout mate? i was talking about women not race. dummy learn to read.
 

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I have dated feminists because I don't let the cac bible control me to think patriarchal when the woman is before man in Africa
 

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the fukk you talking anout mate? i was talking about women not race. dummy learn to read.

"Dummy" :mjlol: Stop projecting when you can't even come up with logical arguments. "Women don't own property because... uhhh... uhh... Because they spend it all on makeup, that's why!"
There are many parallels of race and gender, so I tried to put it in a racial perspective so you'd realize how unfounded your argument was. but of course you wouldn't be able to pick it up. I can usually tell who's not up for debate.

She's not black.
Oh, boy. I just got busted. The blackness patrol is on duty. :mjlol:
 

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"Dummy" :mjlol: Stop projecting when you can't even come up with logical arguments. "Women don't own property because... uhhh... uhh... Because they spend it all on makeup, that's why!"
There are many parallels of race and gender, so I tried to put it in a racial perspective so you'd realize how unfounded your argument was. but of course you wouldn't be able to pick it up. I can usually tell who's not up for debate.


Oh, boy. I just got busted. The blackness patrol is on duty. :mjlol:

:umad: :mjlol:

killa keeps 20 bliccas :umad:
 

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Hell no! Its another silly manufactured -ism to me.
 
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