Fewer men attending college is leading toward "mating crisis", says NYC professor

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Thats cool but what some one wants to stop at community college?

Do they have to take underwater basket.weaving just to say they're "educated"?
Why not, what if you want to take underwater basketball weaving. Why is that a problem? If you don't want to learn anything, you can be ignorant on purpose, thats not an issue. But at least we can have ignorance be a choice made by ignorance and not financial choice.
 

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I think you're on to something.

Woman's mind = I gave up the "p" to Tyrone because he was just some dude and it didn't mean anything. I'm making you wait because I want this to work long-term.

What she's really saying is that she wanted Tyrone to be her long-term boo, but he had too many character flaws. He was physically her ideal but was lacking in other areas. She's willing to wait for sex with you because you're NOT her physical ideal. She's had better so she can wait you out and use sex as leverage for resources. A woman doesn't consciously think this way but you'll never see a woman make a (what she considers) "hot" breh wait. She'll fukk him and then regret it later before fukking him again. Women only have self-discipline with average-looking, average income men.

Men's mind = so I have to go out on multiple dates, commit to you and all this shyt but you let these other nikkas hit ASAP?

You got it breh, remember this is in addition to men who CAN'T get women, being removed from the pool. Men who can but aren't first choice are becoming increasingly reluctant to commit to women, because they know they're second choice/a placeholder.

Simultaneously there are incel dudes with no social skills, and simps being pumped out by subpar parents and single mothers who can't get buns. This leaves only well adjusted, well earning, and or good looking men getting all the p*ssy (EASILY/without effort). As we know a large chunk of these men aren't interested in committing to the bulk share of these women as they are in attraction scale fukking down, they won't double down on the fukk that's below rank and commit. Leads to a feedback loop of women only being able to fukk the men they desire, and being mad at all men for not being the men the desire, and the men they desire seeing them as sex objects at best.

Male feminists and simps on here are already cueing up the "woman-hater" ad hominems, but the dating scene os largely controlled by women, in addition to being skewed in favor of women. Dating is a precursor to marriage. So if less and less people are getting married, at the root of the isssue it ITS WOMENS FAULT. They can raise/change standards, but if men don't see them as worth the hassle, there'll just be less men to pair of with in the pool, hence why women are pushing polyamory.

As funny as it sounds women when given genuine power are just as, and if we're being honest more uncompromising than men.

I tell dudes you might as well only ATTEMPT fukk what you genuinely want, and if you can't fukk what you want, level up till you can, or beat your meat, but placating women you don't truly desire is a waste of everyone's time and only makes the aggregate situation worse.

Frankly a whole lot of people who are average will be alone in the next few decades on both sides. The difference is men are conditioned to be alone/not held down through their formative years (20s), while women have someone (family, fwb, bf, simps) to lean on up until the 30s, when it withers down to family again.
 

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Why not, what if you want to take underwater basketball weaving. Why is that a problem? If you don't want to learn anything, you can be ignorant on purpose, thats not an issue. But at least we can have ignorance be a choice made by ignorance and not financial choice.
This!
Kind of adds an argument to the educated women not dating non-degreed men

Why date someone who doesn’t value what you do?
Some of us legit see college as an opportunity to shape our lives and minds not just as a precursor to getting a job
When I hear people say they went to college and didn’t learn a thing , I shake my head because obviously they went for the wrong reasons.
 
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I’ve been talking about this for a year and the Coli claimed I was lying. The problem is that we’re seeing societal norms stay the same while the country’s economic situation shifts. Men have been coddled for decades, if not more. I call it the AJ Soprano theory: families are lenient on their sons while demanding excellence from their daughters, in order to (hopefully) avoid her becoming a single parent. The result is we raise soft men who don’t have standards.

In the past this wasn’t a problem because that same man didn’t have to go to college. He could be a factory worker at the auto plant, get amazing insurance, be paid very well and raise a family. Those jobs have disappeared, and now men find it harder to fall into success. In short the education gap wouldn’t matter as much if men were making 70-90k at auto plants, postal service, construction etc like they once did (with inflation taken into account).

Instead many men are failing. They have no standards, they can’t deal with competition and they’re content to exist. Go to work at a warehouse or retail, go home, and play video games all night. And complain online that women won’t fukk them. This is bad. And I don’t think the blame is women having standards. The problem is we’ve allowed our middle class to be decimated, our unions to be destroyed, etc. Flip side with sit back and watch men get raised to be bums.

Not just single mothers. Look at how men are raised. Across multiple cultures…not just black or white. This is why the “good old boy” network exists…so dad can call in a favor and get knucklehead junior a decent job at the port, factory, whatever. But when those jobs disappear…

My momma always said we fukk up by "loving our sons and training our daughters."

Opposite gender tends to be soft....Men treat their daughters like a princess while women treat sons like a prince.

Conversely, men tend to be hard on sons while women are hard on daughters. If you have a bunch of single mother households, you're going to have some Type A females and some slacker males. Boys got options but they gotta understand the stakes at an early age.
 

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Another thing I'll say...most conversations about college and degrees don't take into account that most people don't have a degree, and a large percentage of married people don't have degrees - or get married while still in college. It goes back to the battle tested fact that the Coli disputes the most: people tend to marry within their own socioeconomic class. Meaning, if you're working class - say...a retail worker - you will most likely marry someone else in the working class - a receptionist for instance. Likewise a higher income person like a lawyer tends to marry another high income person, like a doctor.

Working class people are getting married still. We have this idea that women are only marrying well off dudes but if you're a working class woman - like most women in this country - odds are you're gonna marry someone who is also working class. There are exceptions to every rule obviously but this is pretty much indisputable when you look at marriage stats. The front desk lady at the flower store isn't bagging lawyers and doctors.
 

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In my experience, women are definitely more educated in terms of graduate degrees. I was the only man in my master’s program (I/O Psych) and the only man in my PhD program (Org Studies).

At my job as a UX researcher at a big oil company, I was the only male. In my current job, it’s like 70% female and all the team leads, except one, is female.

Women just appear to value higher education more. I don’t know why that is, but that’s the situation. I personally do not care. :yeshrug:
 

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Yeah...and another big reason that there's such a imbalance in the numbers is because over the last 50 years, there has been a very persuasive, and strong recruiting effort to get more women in college.

Look around you...there are tons of jobs and college recruiting efforts to "diversify" the work force that has created a tectonic shift. I saw it 20 years ago in college, and I'm sure it was going on 20 years before that. Fast forward to today and and it has now recalibrated into recruiting more women into STEM careers because there's this idea that "women are being left out" SO now, there's a HUGE effort to get more women in STEM careers leading to this strong push to train, educate and employ more women in those fields.

Men who don't have the academic acumen, network/connections or ambition basically have no one to turn to.

A lot of men are basically left on a life raft in the middle of the ocean once they graduate HS. And honestly, no one cares--they're just expected to "man-up" figure out life. When it comes to women on the otherhand, the effort MUST be made to get more of them into college and into a lot of these fields.
The vast majority of women are not interested in those fields.
 

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My momma always said we fukk up by "loving our sons and training our daughters."
Black people keep repeating that anecdote but all social indicators prove black girls are getting the support in our communities especially in education. That statement is really just a way to cover up the neglect toward black boys.
 

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Black people keep repeating that anecdote but all social indicators prove black girls are getting the support in our communities especially in education. That statement is really just a way to cover up the neglect toward black boys.
This is why it's important to have more male administrators and teachers in schools.

This is not even debatable, it's a fact that primary school has a inherent biases toward girls if it's a co ed school. From communicating ideas and the difference on how boys and girls learn
 

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Black people keep repeating that anecdote but all social indicators prove black girls are getting the support in our communities especially in education. That statement is really just a way to cover up the neglect toward black boys.

This is why it's important to have more male administrators and teachers in schools.

As someone that works in education, these new boys don’t want it. They see everyone else getting “easy and fast” money.
 

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Why not, what if you want to take underwater basketball weaving. Why is that a problem? If you don't want to learn anything, you can be ignorant on purpose, thats not an issue. But at least we can have ignorance be a choice made by ignorance and not financial choice.
I’d be fine for schooling for schooling sake if liberal arts professors made 10 bucks an hour and it was a side hustle
 

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In my experience, women are definitely more educated in terms of graduate degrees. I was the only man in my master’s program (I/O Psych) and the only man in my PhD program (Org Studies).

At my job as a UX researcher at a big oil company, I was the only male. In my current job, it’s like 70% female and all the team leads, except one, is female.

Women just appear to value higher education more. I don’t know why that is, but that’s the situation. I personally do not care. :yeshrug:
I got to ask as someone who studies this how can you stand to work with women?

Professionally speaking would you rather work with all men if you could?
 

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Another thing I'll say...most conversations about college and degrees don't take into account that most people don't have a degree, and a large percentage of married people don't have degrees - or get married while still in college. It goes back to the battle tested fact that the Coli disputes the most: people tend to marry within their own socioeconomic class. Meaning, if you're working class - say...a retail worker - you will most likely marry someone else in the working class - a receptionist for instance. Likewise a higher income person like a lawyer tends to marry another high income person, like a doctor.

Working class people are getting married still. We have this idea that women are only marrying well off dudes but if you're a working class woman - like most women in this country - odds are you're gonna marry someone who is also working class. There are exceptions to every rule obviously but this is pretty much indisputable when you look at marriage stats. The front desk lady at the flower store isn't bagging lawyers and doctors.
That’s fine but do you Thant you can convince women to say I will likely marry someone in my tax bracket.
 

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I got to ask as someone who studies this how can you stand to work with women?

Professionally speaking would you rather work with all men if you could?
I don’t mind it, generally. Some women have been on their “fukk men” shyt, but only like 1 or 2. I guess there’s some ultra feminist interpretations that sometimes bother me. They interpret things completely off base at times. We had a female co-worker claim it was sexist because a male product owner asked her to take notes. I’m like, he has made me take notes too. It’s not because you are a female :dead:

You gotta be able to hold your tongue and not say anything that could even be remotely interpreted as sexist. I don’t have a problem with this. If I’m getting paid and moving up, they can say all the bullshyt they want. :yeshrug:
 
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