Future - "Reasonable Doubt was not hot when it dropped"

[Demon]

Hard Knock Life Jay-Z is the best version of Jay-Z ever. That's the version of Jay-Z that people actually gave a fukk about, and set up a beautiful run from 98 till Black Album.

Y'all can't rewrite history. I remember listening to tracks off Reasonable Doubt in 97 and not giving a fukk. They were good joints, but they weren't addictive. "Can I Get A" blew all that shyt out the water.



Which people? Coli lames?

you werent listening to reasonable doubt in 97...shut your lame lying ass up you canadian fakkit.

negged

 

[big bun]

He's right...it dropped with no fanfare and only real hip hop heads knew about it and we're playing it. Then it picked up steam and became "hot".

 

[Buzzed Lightyear]

nikka,no

JAY Z
Title:REASONABLE DOUBT
Certification Date:February 7, 2002
Label: ROC-A-FELLA / PRIORITY
Format:ALBUM
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Release Date.June 1, 1996
Category: SOLO
Type: Standard
Certified Units: 1 Million
Genre: None
Previous Certification:
Platinum | February 7, 2002
Gold | September 18, 1996

JUVENILE
Title: 400 DEGREEZ
Certification Date:December 19, 2000
Label: CASH MONEY / UNIVERSAL
Format: ALBUM
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Release Date.November 3, 1998
Category: SOLO
Type: Standard
Certified Units: 4 Million
Genre: None
Previous Certification:
4x Multi-Platinum | December 19, 2000
3x Multi-Platinum | October 13, 1999
2x Multi-Platinum | August 13, 1999
Platinum | April 27, 1999
Gold | March 2, 1999

Not equal at all

Juvie album didn't take off til Back That Azz Up came out.

 

[Harry B]

@Billy Ocean

I thought I blocked your dikkriding ass, but feel free to tell me how co-signing Future and numbers are dikkriding.

The fumes from that warehouse you are slaving in are messing with that bean in your gigantic head.

 

[Master Teacher]

Except the 420,000 people who bought it.

I'm pretty sure those weren't first week numbers

 

[mobbinfms]

I'm pretty sure those weren't first week numbers

I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Master Teacher]

I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about.

Someone sounds mad reasonable doubt is a true classic, meaning it stands the test of time

when none of mobb sleep albums do and people only remember them as the beat eminem rapped to on 8 mile

 

[Billy Ocean]

@Billy Ocean

I thought I blocked your dikkriding ass, but feel free to tell me how co-signing Future and numbers are dikkriding.

The fumes from that warehouse you are slaving in are messing with that bean in your gigantic head.

This f@ggot mad as fvck

Lying ass loser. You never had me on ignore. Ya b!tch ass always wanna know what I gotta post. Old dikk eating bytch.

 

[mobbinfms]

Someone sounds mad reasonable doubt is a true classic, meaning it stands the test of time

when none of mobb sleep albums do and people only remember them as the beat eminem rapped to on 8 mile

 

[Master Teacher]

p*ssy ass rap stans, no wonder you stan two midgets

 

[FeloniousMonk]

Facts.

It took a while to grow on niccas..

 

[god shamgod]

this is true....people really acting like 'aint no' wasnt get push for the mainstream, while dead presidents/can i live wasnt getting push for the underground....i'm not saying RD was the best album that year, was instant classic, that jay was looked at as the best, etc., but he was far from irrelevant like cats in here trying to say.....i mean, he was relevant enough for nas to diss him on it was written....

This is what happens when a thread full of revisionists talk about hip hop history.Dudes who were 6 and 9 years old in 96 tellin people what was relevant

and for pac to name drop him on bomb first and friends.Jay along with rd was known in 96 anybody who says otherwise is exposing themselves/pushing agendas.I literally remember hearing brooklyns finest,can't knock the hustle remix featuting mary j and dead presidents getting play on the radio summer '96

 

[Big Boss]

i'm not a hater, but i was around when the album dropped. yes, numbers didn't determine if people fukked with you and illmatic, the infamous and a couple of other classic albums did similar numbers. but reasonable doubt was not one of those albums. jay-z was that breh in the foxy brown video and resonable doubt was on nobodies radar. it wasn't considered an underground classic, it was just one of many mafioso rap albums dropping at the time. i remember a source article covering the puff daddy and the family tour in 1997 calling jay, who was a support act, an "overrated technician" and his performance forgettable

i'm not hating on i like a lot of his records (including reasonable doubt) and think that the blueprint is one of the best albums ever recorded in rap. i'm just calling it as it is. jay blew up in '98 with hard knock life, before that, he was on nobodies list. but beginning with the promotion of the blueprint, jay started to rewrite history. there was a huge marketing campaign that culminated in his "retirement" and the black album, trying to make jay the greatest rapper ever and the king of ny. but the truth is, that his first album, while pretty good in retrospect, wasn't considered a classic until jay started saying that it was so often, that people began to repeat it. we can argue that it was slept on, but it was never a classic. the same is true for his own status in rap. jay was never the hottest rapper out, there was always somebody bigger than him. from his debut in 96 to his retirment in 2003 and the whole president carter shtick, tupac, nas, biggie, eminem, dmx, ja rule and 50 cent were all bigger then him. in every single year, somebody else was the hottest rapper. jay was the most consistent rapper, starting the trend to drop an album every year, releasing a couple if singles that did pretty well and going one or two times platinum with every album after vol. 2. but he was never the hottest rapper, he never outsold everybody else and he was never king of ny (at least at a time when that title still meant something). he had a nice consistent run from '98 until 2003 and somehow managed to inflate his own status by claiming that he was bigger than he actually was

Facts

 

[T.he I.nformant]

I hope we misunderstood him.

Me too. I'm surprised nobody asked him to clarify. Credibility would've taken a hit if he thought IWW was the debut or that "If I Ruled The World" was on illmatic.

 

[spliz]

stop talking about the source, that wasn't the only place where Illmatic was critically acclaimed




Illmatic spoke on the harsh realities from an East Coast POV but with poetic value that what was coming from the West



he didn't switch his style lyrically, he just updated the production because there was a change from 94 to 96 in hiphop sonics and even then...that was something he was hesitant to do





you must aint listen to nas demo









nas didn't change lyrically... which is where his impact was made. Ya boy Pac knew what was up


"name a rapper that I ain't influence"






11.2 K-THORO FM: Amazing Breakdown of "Against All Oddz" (NEW INFO)

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dream hampton on how pac felt about illmatic:












stop it






Pac did call nas the "ring leader" and we know why

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U take more time than me when u post. This is why when u post my exact sentiments it comes out . bro. Nothing but undisputed facts here.