Goodbye, $165,000 Tech Jobs. Student Coders Seek Work at Chipotle.

[David_TheMan]

Most of the development around LLMs are low code/no code. It’s designed to be incredibly easy. You pass a prompt and call an API, there is nothing really to learn and it’s how it’s marketed. You don’t need coders at all. I literally just worked with some researchers who barely know python and can create genAI based apps like it’s nothing.

Also a ton of our internal codebases at work are almost entirely genAI driven now. When you try to submit a PR, an internal GenAI tool called Cedric literally reviews it and makes changes, if you defer the changes it’s flagged and you have to provide an explanation that goes to your skip manager.

I guarantee you have used a feature of our software at some point, probably today, that was mostly GenAI

From the nonsense I'm reading from the AI shills the goal is to have programming done using english language , thats their goal, you write in english specific goals you want and the llm will capture it and convert it into a high level language and compile.

Its absurd on its face, because in looking at samples of it, the syntax is so divorced from natural speech that it is a damn psuedo language itself.
That said, again I think most of this shyt is just poor marketing to dumb ass managers who think they are the smartest thing on the block.

 

[klientel]

Things usually come full circle

I tried co pilot yesterday for a simple task I didn't want to investigate, it came up with a simple solution very fast that didn't work

Next stop was Google and 5 minutes later had the answer

There’s different “levels” of AI

Public consumption shyt like ChatGPT, Co-Pilot, Amazon Q are just fancy search engines. That’s why I said agentic AI will replace a lot of people it’s a different beast

 

[MikelArteta]

There’s different “levels” of AI

Public consumption shyt like ChatGPT, Co-Pilot, Amazon Q are just fancy search engines. That’s why I said agentic AI will replace a lot of people it’s a different beast

 

[RageKage]

There’s different “levels” of AI

Public consumption shyt like ChatGPT, Co-Pilot, Amazon Q are just fancy search engines. That’s why I said agentic AI will replace a lot of people it’s a different beast

Of course, these different levels at present come with a $$$ value that real businesses evaluate. Our azure spend at present is astronomical that has c suite execs

 

[BlackJesus]

Wait until CS majors realize there are hundreds of millions of desk jobs and fields their degree is good for between FAANG and Chipotle.

A CS degree doesn’t mean you’re limited to software roles.


It’s still a STEM degree that displays a level of logical thinking above the average crowd.

That’s the big downside here: the more they can’t land a tech job, the more competition for other office jobs goes up because they’ll funnel into them. Now your competition has a STEM degree.

When that mentality spreads on those subreddits rather than the doom and gloom over tech roles

Goofy coli take.

Those office jobs are going away for the same reasons software engineering jobs will go away. If you think AI is going to overlook office jobs you got another thing coming my boy

 

[MikelArteta]

As I said I don't know why people are laughing.

AI can theoretically work 24/7, can be cloned for parallel tasks, and it’s only getting cheaper, better and faster. Nikkaz will laugh but one day you’re gonna be driving and think, “Damn, I haven’t seen a truck handled that well in a long time.” You’ll look up expecting to see Brotha Zay and instead you see nothing.

 

[WIA20XX]

Why are h1bs still in the system if the average American cannot get an IT job?

I been reading slashdot.org since the early 00s, and they were asking that question then.

 

[num123]

Why are h1bs still in the system if the average American cannot get an IT job?

Because they are cheaper and easier to manipulate, that is it.

 

[MJ Truth]

Just admit that social and financial mobility is a thing of the past. Moving goal posts for success just pisses off people and yes, a lot of people are fed up with "skill" just to live anything above poverty

And those people will be left behind. It is what it is. You have to adjust to the situation, the world isn’t gonna adjust to you just because you’re pissed off or fed up and don’t feel like you should have to work or compete.

 

[africngiant]

There’s different “levels” of AI

Public consumption shyt like ChatGPT, Co-Pilot, Amazon Q are just fancy search engines. That’s why I said agentic AI will replace a lot of people it’s a different beast

i loomed over this yesterday.

thinking that you still need a designated team of workers to identify the conflict/issue, then review the ai generated solutions that’s given for the potential broad range of specialized business and manufacturing responsibilities.

one person alone couldn’t handle all these functions themselves. i don’t think

didn’t realize agentic ai was a thing though that could answer my question. that conclusion came from the “ai search engine” perspective

 

[Uachet]

I've used A.I. to help program just simple scripts for a text based Mud I like to play. It fails over and over again. I still have to go back in, repair certain parts of the code to get it to work right. Even when I tell A.I. what is wrong, it admits it is wrong, but does it again since it really does not have any true memory from one moment to the next. It does not learn from our interactions yet, it only upgrades its knowledge from its creators.

Once A.I. actually becomes able to learn from mistakes, is when certain jobs may actually be really threatened.

 

[Wild self]

And those people will be left behind. It is what it is. You have to adjust to the situation, the world isn’t gonna adjust to you just because you’re pissed off or fed up and don’t feel like you should have to work or compete.

No, you don't get it AT ALL. No one will be able to get ahead outside of trust fund babies. That's 99.9% of the damn population will be subjected in poverty.

@Dorian Breh @Kyle C. Barker

 

[Dr. Acula]

Been in this field last 20+ years, I got into a good niche where I work that I feel I can ride it out to retirement but between outsourcing and AI, the landscape has changed and unless u are exemplary or have some luck, it's not like the before times

*I had luck but luck came easier then

It’s not only outsourcing and AI, the culture of tech has created this environment. First you had the companies overhire or go on hiring frenzies a few years ago in order to show growth and so you had a lot of people being hired when yeah they could have gotten away with hiring less. Then you had folks like Musk put the battery in these ceos back by showing he can go in a company and cut most of the workforce and overwork the employees left over and still maintain a “good enough” product. It wasn’t just a scaling back from over hiring. It was a full 180 on staffing.

Now these companies are as you said outsourcing and trying to force AI into everything (this isn’t working out as they imagined so far) but on top of that, companies are saying we can hire way less than what is needed in order to create a good product, just needs to be “good enough”, and we can work the fewer amount of employees until they burn out. Because the whole industry is in on it now, and they know employees know that if they lose their job they will find it hard to get rehired. You can hold that fear over your employees and ask them to work to the bone. 60 hour weeks are now the normal hours in a lot of tech companies. Including ones that used to be viewed as the more “chill” ones like Microsoft.

 

[FaTaL]

is accounting next? ai seems like the logical answer

 

[MikelArteta]

I've used A.I. to help program just simple scripts for a text based Mud I like to play. It fails over and over again. I still have to go back in, repair certain parts of the code to get it to work right. Even when I tell A.I. what is wrong, it admits it is wrong, but does it again since it really does not have any true memory from one moment to the next. It does not learn from our interactions yet, it only upgrades its knowledge from its creators.

Once A.I. actually becomes able to learn from mistakes, is when certain jobs may actually be really threatened.

It's like gaming now companies don't care and will release a glitchy half finished copy knowing they can just send updates or dlc later