Has Bernie built a big enough coalition to form a viable 3rd party?

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I’m just saying, for the informed, that would be as close to rock bottom as it gets without devolving into some type of Jim Crow-style class system.

Regardless, I hope people realize that we’re closer to it than we think and it would be wise not to let Trump have another 4 years to do it in.
The informed are the minority in this country. The majority wouldn't care after a few angry post about it on Facebook. Those issues wouldn't break the country.
 

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  • We need a third party because the Dems have no power.
  • You said they have the House.
  • I said it is not enough and their overall outlook/strategy is not in the best interest of anyone because they don't stand for shyt.
  • You're welcome for the summary. lol

Do you understand a 3rd party started by Bernie, AOC and their followers will completely fukk the Democrats and essentially give the Republicans the driver seat in EVERY election?

Keep in mind I'm pro Bernie but a 3rd party would be a disaster.
 

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progressives shouldn't form a third party, they should continue to move the dem party to the left.... this includes more progressives winning at the local and state level....

what progressives really need more than anything is media..... right now, progressive media is mainly online media like tyt and secular talk, etc.. even cenk had to admit when he got crushed in his house run that online media is not powerful enough.... conservatives like the koch brothers, rupert murdoch, and others have spent decades building media to influence people... sinclair is taking over tv stations all across to country to promote conservative narratives.... progressives have to play the same game... progressives have to push their message into the ears of would be supporters day and night... where is the progressive fox news... the progressive msnbc? the progressive cnn....? it doesn't exist... it has to built and invested in, then minds can be changed....
As we've seen more times than I can count...........just because someone says they do something online doesn't mean they actually do it offline.

That's the big gissue
 

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Do you understand a 3rd party started by Bernie, AOC and their followers will completely fukk the Democrats and essentially give the Republicans the driver seat in EVERY election?

Keep in mind I'm pro Bernie but a 3rd party would be a disaster.
And like previously outlined House Democrats are weak/not about anything the majority of the populace much less their constituency is for, therefore the Republicans are already in the driver's seat. We're at the intolerable point.
 

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Do you understand a 3rd party started by Bernie, AOC and their followers will completely fukk the Democrats and essentially give the Republicans the driver seat in EVERY election?

Keep in mind I'm pro Bernie but a 3rd party would be a disaster.

This is one of the issues.

Bernie types aren't really wanted by the Democratic Party. See all of the "he's not even a REAL democrat" rhetoric
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Democrats don't want Bernie types to leave (with their supporters) because it'd hurt the party.
 

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This is one of the issues.

Bernie types aren't really wanted by the Democratic Party. See all of the "he's not even a REAL democrat" rhetoric
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Democrats don't want Bernie types to leave (with their supporters) because it'd hurt the party.

My reasoning for wanting a third party is this here exactly. Dems are in a moment of soul searching and they have been for decades now. Rethugs are fully on board with the neoliberal agenda, whereas Dems are trying to straddle both sides of the fence which is why the right has had so much success against them.

I don’t see why Progressive voices and ideas should be lost while Dems going through a “Is it Oochie Wally or is it One Mic” phase. Any plans for a third party as I said should be as flexible as possible in terms of potentially merging with Dems should it look like a viable and prudent option. But at the same time, the capability, if necessary, to run on their own platform should that not work out or should the right come back with a vengeance should also be a priority.
 

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My reasoning for wanting a third party is this here exactly. Dems are in a moment of soul searching and they have been for decades now. Rethugs are fully on board with the neoliberal agenda, whereas Dems are trying to straddle both sides of the fence which is why the right has had so much success against them.

I don’t see why Progressive voices and ideas should be lost while Dems going through a “Is it Oochie Wally or is it One Mic” phase. Any plans for a third party as I said should be as flexible as possible in terms of potentially merging with Dems should it look like a viable and prudent option. But at the same time, the capability, if necessary, to run on their own platform should that not work out or should the right come back with a vengeance should also be a priority.
Also, a third party doesn't have to win just have a good showing 15% + of the vote and Dems will come to them willing to negotiate for their votes. Right now they are either out right shytting on the agenda or at best paying lip service with no intention to fight for it.
 

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Not outrageous/charismatic enough. We need a Trump like character even if big media conglomerates don't like their message they got to put them on anyway because it means ratings. That's the type of charisma we need. She's not it on that tip.

It didn't work for your hero Ron Paul

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