Has Tim Duncan surpassed Hakeem Olaujwoun?

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Who on the Spurs, before 2005 could create their own shots? Who? Not one person. Duncan won the 2003 ring by his motherfukking self Knocking out the 3 time champs on the way. The offense until about 2008 was to pass the ball to Duncan on the block and let him work.

Oh and just for fun, I youtubed a vid of the 1991 playoffs against the Lakers. Show me anywhere where the Rockets just thru it down to Dream and let him work. Go ahead :shaq: Im waiting.

1991 NBA Playoffs: Rockets at Lakers, Gm 1 part 12/13 - YouTube

If u look at any of the vids, u will see they ran pick and roll with Otis Thorpe and Kenny Smith during crunch time.
So I guess that was why they wasn't relevant right? Because my point was in order for them to win he HAD dominate in which this case they didn't go to him :pacspit:
 

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Cool, so now we down to the crux of it. U like the way Dream's game looked better than how Duncan's looks. Thats got nothing to do with who is the better player.

i said he's top 15 scorer all time and he's the all time leader in blocked shots. and all you got from my post was that i said he had a better looking game.


ok bruh.
 

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I don't agree wit D Rob being better then Drexler but thats debatable but during this first couple championships Ginobili & Parker were not better then Houstons role players and lets not even mention Sam Cassell.

Sam Cassell was a fukking rookie when they won they 1st ring if I'm not mistaken

He didn't become really good until he went to the bucks

And he'll no the rockets role players weren't better then ginobli and Parker...you must be high nikka

Fact is Dream was better then Duncan at both ends of the floor so how are y'all nikkas even arguing that Duncan was better?
 

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:snoop: In order for Hakeem teams to be relevant, he had to dominate. The only way they could've won those 2 titles was with Hakeem dominating like he did. Duncan didn't have to dominate in order for his teams to win. No one on the Rockets could create their own shot and had to rely upon the double team the Dream received from opposing teams. Hakeem WAS THE OFFENSE. Again Hakeem played without an allstar for nearly a decade. He only had Sampson but he was always injured.

Look at the vid. What double teams was dream creating? Really breh? Did u even watch? cause if u did, u saw they didn't even go down to him on the block in crunch time. This is winning time I'm talking bout. And they chose to go PnR with Kenny Smith and Otis Thorpe. And this is Hakeem being "THE OFFENSE". :mjpls:
 

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Look at the vid. What double teams was dream creating? Really breh? Did u even watch? cause if u did, u saw they didn't even go down to him on the block in crunch time. This is winning time I'm talking bout. And they chose to go PnR with Kenny Smith and Otis Thorpe. And this is Hakeem being "THE OFFENSE". :mjpls:

First of all, he was injured almost half of that year. 2nd of all, that was gm 1.
 

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i said he's top 15 scorer all time and he's the all time leader in blocked shots. and all you got from my post was that i said he had a better looking game.


ok bruh.

NAh Im not discounting the other aspects of his game. Those points u made were already understood. They go without saying. They are facts. There was no need to mention them really cause I think Dream is an amazing player. Just when comparing all-time great players, Im not sure of the value of it.
 

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Duncan's never had the ability to defend his championships like Hakeem and others in his class have so that places him below them.
 

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Look at the vid. What double teams was dream creating? Really breh? Did u even watch? cause if u did, u saw they didn't even go down to him on the block in crunch time. This is winning time I'm talking bout. And they chose to go PnR with Kenny Smith and Otis Thorpe. And this is Hakeem being "THE OFFENSE". :mjpls:

you starting to come off like those Heats fans.

you tryna any whichaway to validate Duncan being better than Dream.
 

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Sam Cassell was a fukking rookie when they won they 1st ring if I'm not mistaken

He didn't become really good until he went to the bucks

And he'll no the rockets role players weren't better then ginobli and Parker...you must be high nikka

Fact is Dream was better then Duncan at both ends of the floor so how are y'all nikkas even arguing that Duncan was better?

Sam Cassell made his name in Rockets playoffs that year and I guess you don't realize that Tony Parker got benched for Speedy Claxton becuz of his play. Tony Parker and Ginobili were nothin more then role players their first few years
 

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First of all, he was injured almost half of that year. 2nd of all, that was gm 1.
About the injury, Dream was back by that time and played in 56 games that year, starting 50. He missed 20 games in Jan and Feb and came back to play in all of March and April.

About it being game 1, What they didn't wanna win game 1? :stopitslime:
 

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NAh Im not discounting the other aspects of his game. Those points u made were already understood. They go without saying. They are facts. There was no need to mention them really cause I think Dream is an amazing player. Just when comparing all-time great players, Im not sure of the value of it.
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dude this makes zero sense.
 

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Duncan's never had the ability to defend his championships like Hakeem and others in his class have so that places him below them.
This makes no sense.

Having 4 rings >>> having 2 but they were back to back.
 

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you starting to come off like those Heats fans.

you tryna any whichaway to validate Duncan being better than Dream.

How am I doing that? I am showing u vids of when "Olojuwan dominated and didn't have teammates". U can see from the vids that the shyt y'all saying in this thread and what actually happened on the court is not matching up. There was no "feed Dream the rock and get out the way" or "Dream creating double teams for his teammates". None of that shyt. The nikka Dream was on the perimeter wandering around the whole 4th quarter while Kenny fukking Smith had the ball in his hands running PnRs with Otis Thorpe. I come with facts and evidence, u come with ..... crickets.
 

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Not a single Duncan supporter has mentioned one thing Duncan did better than Hakeem
 
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