Has Tim Duncan surpassed Hakeem Olaujwoun?

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hakeem at his peak

only c00ns will disagree

THats not the argument. Not talking bout peaks. Kobe at his peak arguably better than MJ (87 point Kobe). Shaq at his peak arguably better than Kareem. Doesn't make em better overall. U can't pick the best 2-3 years from a player and then forget about all the other shyt they did, like it didn't exist.
 

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:what:

are we seriously gonna compare finals stats of a guy who went against JASON fukkING COLLINS in the finals to a guy who went up against Shaq and Pat Ewing in the finals?

SERIOUSLY?

:wtf:




yes he was CLEARLY better on both ends.

That doesn't mean he shyts on him, that just means that if you ask 10 people who watched both of em, 8 or 9 would say the same thing.

Do you feel that duncan was the better offensive player?
Do you feel that duncan was the better defensive player?
Have you factored in Duncan playing for the goat coach, or the extra impact duncan had on defense due to rule changes?

Why would you spit on your black brother?

Let's be real; Pop first year a HC was 96 so you talking like he's been in the game well before TD got there. He got to mold is coaching skills while coaching TD. On offense I feel as though they were equal. Defensively Akeem was better. What did Dream do on offense that Duncan cldn't do?
 

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:what:

are we seriously gonna compare finals stats of a guy who went against JASON fukkING COLLINS in the finals to a guy who went up against Shaq and Pat Ewing in the finals?

SERIOUSLY?

:wtf:

Kenyon Martin actually. Robinson was still there so Duncan was doing his oversized 4 thing.
 

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THats not the argument. Not talking bout peaks. Kobe at his peak arguably better than MJ (87 point Kobe). Shaq at his peak arguably better than Kareem. Doesn't make em better overall. U can't pick the best 2-3 years from a player and then forget about all the other shyt they did, like it didn't exist.

kobe was never better than mj..stfu with that shyt

better defender was hakeem(blocks+steals)
hakeem scores in soo many different ways better than duncan

duncans only advantage was his longevity..and that shyt is overrated
 

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Let's be real; Pop first year a HC was 96 so you talking like he's been in the game well before TD got there. He got to mold is coaching skills while coaching TD. On offense I feel as though they were equal. Defensively Akeem was better. What did Dream do on offense that Duncan cldn't do?

its not that hakeem did stuff duncan couldnt do on offense.....hakeem just did it all at a higher level

and thibs is a new coach but he's still gawdly. i've always thought pop was amazing, obviously having tim helps, but hakeem is better and he never made any of his coaches look great :manny:

Kenyon Martin actually. Robinson was still there so Duncan was doing his oversized 4 thing.

true, but still. you can't compare going against a small power forward to dominating 2 1st ballot hall of famers in ewing and david robinson


kobe was never better than mj..stfu with that shyt

better defender was hakeem(blocks+steals)
hakeem scores in soo many different ways better than duncan

duncans only advantage was his longevity..and that shyt is overrated

weve got to wait until next year for the longevity

hakeem averaged 19 and 10 in his 15th season, thats better than what duncan did his 15th season (this year)
 

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its not that hakeem did stuff duncan couldnt do on offense.....hakeem just did it all at a higher level

and thibs is a new coach but he's still gawdly. i've always thought pop was amazing, obviously having tim helps, but hakeem is better and he never made any of his coaches look great :manny:



true, but still. you can't compare going against a small power forward to dominating 2 1st ballot hall of famers in ewing and david robinson

I NEVER said Akeem wasn't better, I said he was better, but people make it seem like the gap is Akeem vs Dwight Howard
 

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kobe was never better than mj..stfu with that shyt

better defender was hakeem(blocks+steals)
hakeem scores in soo many different ways better than duncan

duncans only advantage was his longevity..and that shyt is overrated

Hell yeah. 35 point per game, 81 point Kobe is arguably better than MJ. Not saying its definite but its def debatable whether MJ was ever better than that Lobe that avg 40 for a month.
 

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If you bring what Hakeem did to Robinson into it I've never seen anyone demolished like that. In the NY finals I thought Ewing did ok guarding hakeem he just couldn't do enough on offense. I thought Hakeem against shaq was really impressive though. That whole Rocket team reached a peak it didn't look like they had in them that year or even after, and Hakeem was the driving force.

Confession: I wrote a finals preview for my school paper predicting an Orlando sweep because Houston didn't have enough weapons outside Hakeem and named Nick Anderson as a major difference-maker.
 

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The guy arguing the hardest for Duncan over Hakeem thinks kobe was better than Jordan

:russ:
 

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The guy arguing the hardest for Duncan over Hakeem thinks kobe was better than Jordan

:russ:

Read the quote homie. Talking peaks not overall. ITs like y'all r here to be intentionally dense. The guy came in talking bout peaks. It seems that thats all the Dream fans have, and I can respect it if u say Dreams peak was higher than Duncans, tho I disagree. But to only use this as ur basis for who is better is asinine. Its like arguing with children. Every Dream fan as entered into the thread talking bout Dream 94-96 acting like those are the only years he played.
 

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If you bring what Hakeem did to Robinson into it I've never seen anyone demolished like that. In the NY finals I thought Ewing did ok guarding hakeem he just couldn't do enough on offense. I thought Hakeem against shaq was really impressive though. That whole Rocket team reached a peak it didn't look like they had in them that year or even after, and Hakeem was the driving force.

Confession: I wrote a finals preview for my school paper predicting an Orlando sweep because Houston didn't have enough weapons outside Hakeem and named Nick Anderson as a major difference-maker.

You got that right tho :russ::russ::russ::russ::russ:
 

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its not that hakeem did stuff duncan couldnt do on offense.....hakeem just did it all at a higher level

and thibs is a new coach but he's still gawdly. i've always thought pop was amazing, obviously having tim helps, but hakeem is better and he never made any of his coaches look great :manny:



true, but still. you can't compare going against a small power forward to dominating 2 1st ballot hall of famers in ewing and david robinson




weve got to wait until next year for the longevity

hakeem averaged 19 and 10 in his 15th season, thats better than what duncan did his 15th season (this year)

:ooh: case closed
 
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