How come cacs didnt hijack jazz like they did rock n roll??

[Kitsch]

Smh.

 

[MikeyC]

Jazz, Rock, House....

Hip Hop's next up, don't sleep.

 

[newworldafro]

Jazz takes soul which they have none of

Jazz, Rock, House....

Hip Hop's next up, don't sleep.

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[ignorethis]

they did

 

[GPBear]

They did, read Miles Davis' opinion on Dave Brubeck. Or pick up any Kenny G album, but the simple answer is jazz takes an extensive musical knowledge and technical ability.



Playing phrygian scales doesn't get you bytches unless you're Miles Davis

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

All those brit rockers were big fans of Delta Blues guys from the South.Copied their guitar licks and such. Thing is those guys took blues in a heavier direction..thus hard rock. Little Richard,Fats Domino,Chuck Berry were labeled Rock and Roll at one point.

I think most ppl when they think of Rock they think if the hard rock that came about in the 70s.Which alot of those bands were heavily influenced by blues but just took off in another direction.

White Americans getting interested in blues was a gift and a curse. Kinda funny and sad how it took white british dudes to accept the blues for the whites in America to start listening to it.

White Americans didn't take over Rock n Roll in the same way White Englishmen did tho. My favorite old White Rock bands are almost all British. With some exceptions.

 

[Northern Son]

All those brit rockers were big fans of Delta Blues guys from the South.Copied their guitar licks and such. Thing is those guys took blues in a heavier direction..thus hard rock. Little Richard,Fats Domino,Chuck Berry were labeled Rock and Roll at one point.

I think most ppl when they think of Rock they think if the hard rock that came about in the 70s.Which alot of those bands were heavily influenced by blues but just took off in another direction.

White Americans getting interested in blues was a gift and a curse. Kinda funny and sad how it took white british dudes to accept the blues for the whites in America to start listening to it.

The only original musical idea cacs pioneered in the last 100 years or so is electronic music.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

question did black parents hate rock n roll/rhythm and blues like white parents or nah?

No, they didn't, generally speaking. The only black people that didn't like it were church going types who thought of the Blues/secular music as "Devils Music". White parents hated it for other reasons, mainly because they knew Rock N Roll came from "Black" music that was too sexualized (they had the same thought about early Jazz and ragtime too) in their opinion.

 

[bdkane]

The primary face of Jazz stayed black for one reason and one reason only: Miles Davis, but even then the genre had become watered down in the 70's when the fusion style of jazz came in, and that was basically white guitarists wanting Jazz credibility without applying themselves as creatively as the purer jazz musicians

But the thing about Jazz that's different from any other genre, it's forerunners always gave credit where credit was do, whether black or white. Nobody ever hid behind a fanbase or took credit for anybody else's work....but a lot of that had to do with those old timers being willing to throw down during that era over that type of stuff

But you can't look at what happened to Jazz the same way as what happened to Rock N Roll. Jazz became an international force and had a level of comraderie and unity that no other genre was able to achieve. Besides, the best bass guitarist of all time was a white man (Jaco Pastorius)

With you til the end. Stanley wit Jaco, fretless or not

 

[IllmaticDelta]

White Americans getting interested in blues was a gift and a curse. Kinda funny and sad how it took white british dudes to accept the blues for the whites in America to start listening to it.

Southern White Americans always knew about the Blues. They didn't need the Brits to introduce them to it. In fact, Country music w/ guitars was birthed because of southern whites listening to the Blues. Country music is "white blues".

 

[Black Magisterialness]

now a lot of cacs did jazz and some did take songs from blacks but how come they didn't completely take over the genre and phase out blacks like they did with rock music??

the fukk are you talking about of course they did that's why we have that elevator music Smooth Jazz, dominated by cats like Boney James and Rick Braun

 

[Black Magisterialness]

The primary face of Jazz stayed black for one reason and one reason only: Miles Davis, but even then the genre had become watered down in the 70's when the fusion style of jazz came in, and that was basically white guitarists wanting Jazz credibility without applying themselves as creatively as the purer jazz musicians

But the thing about Jazz that's different from any other genre, it's forerunners always gave credit where credit was do, whether black or white. Nobody ever hid behind a fanbase or took credit for anybody else's work....but a lot of that had to do with those old timers being willing to throw down during that era over that type of stuff

But you can't look at what happened to Jazz the same way as what happened to Rock N Roll. Jazz became an international force and had a level of comraderie and unity that no other genre was able to achieve. Besides, the best bass guitarist of all time was a white man (Jaco Pastorius)

Stanley Clarke would like a word with you....

 

[keond]

Besides the Atlanta and NO Jazz Festivals, most jazz concerts are mostly white. Audience and performers. They haven't taken it over, but they are definitely a really big presence. Im glad there are finally some new younger blacks that are making great jazz influenced albums like Kamasi and Robert Glasper.

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

i'll entertain this; they did. what they did was put it in universities and made it a scholarly, collegiate pursuit. most of the "critically acclaimed" modern jazz musicians have passed thru the university system at one time or another even if they didn't graduate. more importantly, it became "intellectual" music or it was intellectualized. what i mean by that is that they came up with musical based theories about the sounds and ideas behind jazz and sucked the soul out of it. that's not to say the players themselves don't have soul, but it's no longer an art form based on feeling. instead, you have to know your mixolydian, phrygians, dorian scales, whole tone, pentatonics, hexatonics, triad pairings, etc. otherwise, those who've come out of the university are unlikely to recognize you as such an artist. i use to think i played jazz. nowadays, i just consider myself a musician. i wouldn't want to be lumped in with all that shyt...

 

[IllmaticDelta]

they don't hijack shyt it's we that abandoned these genres and they adapt it. no way they could jack shyt when we're active in them.

Actually they did try to hijack jazz and they've been trying since the 1910's...They got more commercial press while the black artists like Ellington were still around. The black artist got their respect and dues in the long run historically speaking by the musicians but they never got as big commercially speaking as many of the white musicians.

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Jazz's Great White Hype

By Michael Patrick Welch
The family of a white trumpeter who claimed to have invented jazz demands he be recognized among the genre’s greats…but not everyone is singing the same tune.

Nick LaRocca

His words:

“My contention is that the negroes learned to play this rhythm and music from the whites,” LaRocca said. “The negro did not play any kind of music equal to white men at any time.”

http://narrative.ly/stories/jazzs-great-white-hype/



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