I love how it goes around here insinuating that older people cannot listen to newer music.
Most of the new shyt sucks, plain and simple.
Most of the new shyt sucks, plain and simple.
I think I realized partly why NYC rap fell off...
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Old folks can go to oldies rap and hip-hop stations that R&B, Rock, and Pop music uses.
Its time for to roll around anyways.
Nah man I still disagree.
The ATL market is ON FIRE with talent. Theres basically like 2 and half (cause one station is like 50/50 rap) sometimes 3 rap stations in atlanta.
Not to mention that ATL exports so much content around the country, not just in rap but in jazz and R&B...its not hard to see that their formatting of radio definitely helps music discovery
Old people can't appreciate new music FROM YOUNG PEOPLE. Older folks love new stuff from more mature and age appropriate artists of course.
If they can, more power to them, but most of them can't...and no degree of open-mindedness will change that.
When Dame even said the shyt about Flex in the Combat Jack interview, I knew what I was saying was right.
This August, Flex will be 46...
Just let go man.
Groom the next dude to come in your place and hold down the fort. Transition into that legacy lane and pioneer THAT. Stop hogging the airwaves this old man view of the world.
Nonsense.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
There's really just 2 hip-hop stations at this point in NYC (Hot 97 and Power 105; WBLS is more R&B).
The formatting of radio may help break artists, but are the heads at the radio stations worried about artist development or trying to keep up with other stations? NY hip-hop stations are very risk averse since they know one bad move and they're the next KISS FM
If we're gonna keep it 100, nobody knows how to format a station better than Spanish stations. They play old shyt, new shyt, they have their morning shows (which duke it out with the hip-hop stations all the time for tops in the city), crazy mixes by youngins and there's not a single complaint, so much so that more stations pop up. Part of that is the fact that old and young Hispanic listeners appreciate each other's music which doesn't happen much in hip-hop. Who's to say we'd have the same kind of attachment to a DJ Funkmaster Flex pushes?
You could say the same thing about A&Rs and artist development in record labels. You show me good artist development and I'll show you a label that fired its staff because of all the money they lost trying to develop artists.
Knicksman20
Superstar
I'm dumb but my point goes straight over your head which I knew it would. Your comprehension bruh...
The 2 "new" NYC rappers I listen to rapped over beats that sounded like NYC without sounding dusty and boom bappy. And the samples problem is irrelevant in this internet era- pretty much all music is "for promotion only". I mean who is the last NYC rapper to get a major record deal? Nicki Minaj? Your logic is sound but your reasoning is like 15 years out of date.
I'm not saying NYers shouldn't like down South music. My first album was The Chronic and I grew up in Jamaica, Queens. I fukked with Outkast heavy growing up. So that's all good. I'm just saying we can enjoy their music without copying the hell out of it. We can enjoy their music w/o losing our identity.
I honestly feel like a lot of it comes down to the rest of the country being tired of NYC and judging it based on how we were at our peak ~15-20 years ago. It's a new city with a new sound. The fact that my nikka Max didn't blow, with literally every element necessary to cover any aspect of rap stardom, is proof.
I had an older brother and I remember how he and his boys would downplay Biggie and called him wack and my big bro was a big Rakim Stan
I still talk to him and he still feels the same way
Pac..Idk my brother never had any of his albums so Im guessin he never rlly fcked wit him
Knicksman20
Superstar
quality??
Iight les do it breh
vs
Compare Pac's verse to Drake's rap verse on the song
And tell me which one more lyrical
I guarantee u Drake sht more lyrical breh
Les talk about the 2 biggest new artists to come out collabing and making this tho
U gon tell me this aint quality
or this aint quality?
or this aint quality?
U prolly gonna say no about the last one to that I will say this song contains more lyrical elements than many NY hits in the 90s breh
I'll entertain you & break this down point by point. First off I'll put my issues with Drake aside for this even though he's half white & raised by his white mother, grew up in Canada, raised in the Jewish religion, & fakes a southern accent. He might as well be Iggy Azaelea but we'll leave that alone.
You're comparison of the Pac/Drake songs wasn't good. You should've chosen Hold Ya Head, Staring at the World Through My Rear View, or So Many Tears. Pac was never a lyrical emcee but it was his content & delivery that made him nice. As a lyricist I give Drake the edge but as far as delivery & content is Pac & it's not even close. Drake's voice is about as annoying as Em's. Pac overall is a better emcee than Drake because he's better in so many other areas. Not to mention in Worst behavior Drake basically took a chunk out of a 90's emcee's lyrics. Mase's verse from the Mo Money Mo Problems Biggie song. He's sampling from the the 90's huh...
& two of the dopest artists from that era...??? And if you really read my post you would've realized I gave Kendrick Lamar his due because he's calling out his peers & drawing that line in the sand. He's one of the young & promising artists that I listen to & I hope he continues on the same track. Rick Ross is average bruh. He's stealing his image from BIG but doesn't have the charisma or lyrical skill BIG had & never will. That's no knock on him but he is what he is.
Drake & Kendrick Lamar need more friendly competition. Their collab was ok but I want more of that. I thought KL edged him in Poetic Justice.
The Wayne & Drake song more lyrical than many hits in the 90's? Come on fam! It's ok but not hot like that bruh be serious. These are crazy collabs:
Its hard to talk rap with 90s babies who refuse to do the history.
I'll entertain you & break this down point by point. First off I'll put my issues with Drake aside for this even though he's half white & raised by his white mother, grew up in Canada, raised in the Jewish religion, & fakes a southern accent. He might as well be Iggy Azaelea but we'll leave that alone.
You're comparison of the Pac/Drake songs wasn't good. You should've chosen Hold Ya Head, Staring at the World Through My Rear View, or So Many Tears. Pac was never a lyrical emcee but it was his content & delivery that made him nice. As a lyricist I give Drake the edge but as far as delivery & content is Pac & it's not even close. Drake's voice is about as annoying as Em's. Pac overall is a better emcee than Drake because he's better in so many other areas. Not to mention in Worst behavior Drake basically took a chunk out of a 90's emcee's lyrics. Mase's verse from the Mo Money Mo Problems Biggie song. He's sampling from the the 90's huh...
And if you really read my post you would've realized I gave Kendrick Lamar his due because he's calling out his peers & drawing that line in the sand. He's one of the young & promising artists that I listen to & I hope he continues on the same track. Rick Ross is average bruh. He's stealing his image from BIG but doesn't have the charisma or lyrical skill BIG had & never will. That's no knock on him but he is what he is.
Drake & Kendrick Lamar need more friendly competition. Their collab was ok but I want more of that. I thought KL edged him in Poetic Justice.
The Wayne & Drake song more lyrical than many hits in the 90's? Come on fam! It's ok but not hot like that bruh be serious. These are crazy collabs:
Them tracks aint singles breh
SO u give Drake the edge lyrically..yet ur biggest gripe was that the lyrical bar was lowered
Well if we compare the biggest rapper of the 90s to the biggest rapper of now we see that Drake lyrically kills Pac
Not to mention Drake also provides many flows, great hooks and provides all the necessary aspects to make hits
SO I mean what u rlly sayin breh
Compare the lyricism of Snoop, Big and Pac to Drake, Kdot, and J Cole
And u tell me how the bar has been lowered
The next rapper to blow from NYC will be a plant