I think I realized partly why NYC rap fell off...

[Ego Noir]

Wtf are you talking about you stupid nicca?

Stop trying to deflect and move goalposts, what difference does it make if he's a DJ, HE'S STILL A FIGUREHEAD FOR NEW YORK HIP HOP RADIO...do you even know what figurehead means? Seriously? You still haven't answered any of my questions...do not say ANYTHING ELSE to me unless you're directly answering my very specific questions you moron

Do you understand the difference between a radio personality and a DJ? You want Angie Martinez to fukking put somebody on

Shes the biggest name on the biggest hip-hop station in the country. On the waves primetime. name me a personality from Westbumfukk, Alabama or wherever else you from nikka:steven:


Shes a RADIO PERSONALITY. Not a DJ. Why are you asking me for accomplishments in the realm of a fukking DJ. Are you stupid?


Stop speaking on New York radio when you dont even fukking listen to New York radio.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

A lot of you think NY is on some hating the younger generation or the south/other regions which isn't completely true. There are some people hating just to hate but that's a small number. Old school guys like myself hold artists to a higher standard because you had to actually have lyrical skill & content to be put on. Nowadays the bar has been so lowered cornballs who never would get a listen can get a buzz going which is crazy. And I don't care how good someone's production is because if you couldn't rap you were shown the door & that's how it should be. NY'ers from my generation grew up listening to skillful emcees & legends who were ahead of their time. Nowadays if you can bump the music in your car, or if females can dance to it in the clubs it gets played on the radio & clubs. Artists aren't trying to hone their craft & are just putting out that Molly music hoping it'll be a hit & NY jumped on that mainstream bandwagon because artists are making money. But doing that we lost our cultural soul & sound that defined us.

This too. Troy Ave

 

[blackslash]

A lot of you think NY is on some hating the younger generation or the south/other regions which isn't completely true. There are some people hating just to hate but that's a small number. Old school guys like myself hold artists to a higher standard because you had to actually have lyrical skill & content to be put on. Nowadays the bar has been so lowered cornballs who never would get a listen can get a buzz going which is crazy. And I don't care how good someone's production is because if you couldn't rap you were shown the door & that's how it should be. NY'ers from my generation grew up listening to skillful emcees & legends who were ahead of their time. Nowadays if you can bump the music in your car, or if females can dance to it in the clubs it gets played on the radio & clubs. Artists aren't trying to hone their craft & are just putting out that Molly music hoping it'll be a hit & NY jumped on that mainstream bandwagon because artists are making money. But doing that we lost our cultural soul & sound that defined us.

Ur kind is also the reason why Ny's comeback will never happen

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Sure, why not? They both got their starts off of someone else giving them a shot and they are ambassadors of the city..

Well to be honest... I don't see them matching up with any of these rappers on a record artistically. I could maybe see Ka, Joey Bada$$, Action Bronson, or Roc Marciano on a retro joint with Nas being nice, but the rest? Can you imagine how awkward a Jay-Z and Bodega Bamz record would be? Or Flatbush Zombies? or eXquire? He's never doing anything with A$AP because the dude talked shyt about him on twitter. Jay-Z is the one who can really help these guys, but unfortunately I can't see him making anything worthwhile with them. As @Napoleon alluded to, both of them are just in different mindstates than these younger cats.

And if people saw him making records with them the response would be 'ohhh look at grandpa hov dikkriding again' or 'hov needs to act his age' or they criticise him for working with what they consider to be a 'mediocre artist'. At least dude tried to sign Joey Bada$$ I guess

 

[gho3st]

A lot of you think NY is on some hating the younger generation or the south/other regions which isn't completely true. There are some people hating just to hate but that's a small number. Old school guys like myself hold artists to a higher standard because you had to actually have lyrical skill & content to be put on. Nowadays the bar has been so lowered cornballs who never would get a listen can get a buzz going which is crazy. And I don't care how good someone's production is because if you couldn't rap you were shown the door & that's how it should be. NY'ers from my generation grew up listening to skillful emcees & legends who were ahead of their time. Nowadays if you can bump the music in your car, or if females can dance to it in the clubs it gets played on the radio & clubs. Artists aren't trying to hone their craft & are just putting out that Molly music hoping it'll be a hit & NY jumped on that mainstream bandwagon because artists are making money. But doing that we lost our cultural soul & sound that defined us.

and ur way of thinking is why NY rap fell off and it aint never comin' back. The South doesn't discriminate against a particular type of music. Every region in the south got a distinct sound to them. Nikkas listen to them all.
And your point about "if you can bump music in your car..." does not make any sense. Music is made so you can bump to it. Dont forget about the demographic change in nY too

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

A lot of you think NY is on some hating the younger generation or the south/other regions which isn't completely true. There are some people hating just to hate but that's a small number. Old school guys like myself hold artists to a higher standard because you had to actually have lyrical skill & content to be put on. Nowadays the bar has been so lowered cornballs who never would get a listen can get a buzz going which is crazy. And I don't care how good someone's production is because if you couldn't rap you were shown the door & that's how it should be. NY'ers from my generation grew up listening to skillful emcees & legends who were ahead of their time. Nowadays if you can bump the music in your car, or if females can dance to it in the clubs it gets played on the radio & clubs. Artists aren't trying to hone their craft & are just putting out that Molly music hoping it'll be a hit & NY jumped on that mainstream bandwagon because artists are making money. But doing that we lost our cultural soul & sound that defined us.

Don't talk to me about lyrical skill and content. These young dudes are DOING it out here.

The 90s rap music was some of the most outwardly violent and ridiculous shyt the world had ever seen at that point. Especially the mainstream stuff.

Now, of course you loved it. You grew up on it...but don't talk to me about "quality" when you've clearly got TALENTED ARTISTS WHO CAN RAP in the forefront. This isn't 2002. Snap music just isnt everywhere and you're lying if you really think artists aren't out here snapping on tracks.

...but this goes to prove my point:

What YOU need is an old school rap radio station...its about that time for that too.

You're older and theres nothing wrong with that, but other genres have evolved to adjust for this and rap hasn't.

There needs to be content promoted by people who are most likely to even enjoy it. That can't happen with 45 year olds screaming at 6PM.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Do you understand the difference between a radio personality and a DJ? You want Angie Martinez to fukking put somebody on

Shes the biggest name on the biggest hip-hop station in the country. On the waves primetime. name me a personality from Westbumfukk, Alabama or wherever else you from nikka:steven:


Shes a RADIO PERSONALITY. Not a DJ. Why are you asking me for accomplishments in the realm of a fukking DJ. Are you stupid?


Stop speaking on New York radio when you dont even fukking listen to New York radio.

Dawg, shes FORTY THREE YEARS OLD. Shes ALSO a woman. So lets keep it 10000000 right now and admit SHES NOT THE TARGET DEMO OF THE shyt SHE CLAIMS TO LISTEN TO AND REPRESENT

She knows it too.

Radio personalities are EVERYWHERE. I can name quite a few I think who could deserve her spot based on their online presence if they transitioned to radio.

Shes not untouchable.

I personally think her time has come.

Do you even listen to how fake she sounds now? As if shes TRULY excited to know that "the migos" are in her studio? Or that "Big Sean" just stepped through the door?

fukk outta here.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

and ur way of thinking is why NY rap fell off and it aint never comin' back. The South doesn't discriminate against a particular type of music. Every region in the south got a distinct sound to them. Nikkas listen to them all.
And your point about "if you can bump music in your car..." does not make any sense. Music is made so you can bump to it. Dont forget about the demographic change in nY too

And this furthers my idea.

Change can't happen if older dudes who are gate keepers keep trying to finesse the evolution of the genre.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Migos is trash. They are and embarrassment to the human race and this is what happens when these dudes are raised by single mothers.

Yet Migos are the biggest bubbling artists out in about half the country and NY MCs instead of acknowledging that, Ebro spends half the interview trying to play the cool grand-dad talking about sexting and how he can't understand their lyrics. Dude even had the audacity to ask if THEY understood their own lyrics and those of their fellow peers.

fukk outta here.

 

[Ego Noir]

Dawg, shes FORTY THREE YEARS OLD. Shes ALSO a woman. So lets keep it 10000000 right now and admit SHES NOT THE TARGET DEMO OF THE shyt SHE CLAIMS TO LISTEN TO AND REPRESENT

She knows it too.

Radio personalities are EVERYWHERE. I can name quite a few I think who could deserve her spot based on their online presence if they transitioned to radio.

Shes not untouchable.

I personally think her time has come.

Do you even listen to how fake she sounds now? As if shes TRULY excited to know that "the migos" are in her studio? Or that "Big Sean" just stepped through the door?

fukk outta here.

Dawg. Im not disagreeing with you. Your point is 100% valid.

Im talking to @Bury Da Bwoy whos acting like as far as radio personalities go Angie Martinez is named in the same bracket as some fukkboy on the radio in whatever rural slum hes from.

Whether you believe she deserves her title or not is irrelevant. Angie Martinez on Hot 97 is Angie Martinez on Hot 97 and has been for a long time. And that name on that station is far from a slouch.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Dawg. Im not disagreeing with you. Your point is 100% valid.

Im talking to @Bury Da Bwoy whos acting like as far as radio personalities go Angie Martinez is named in the same bracket as some fukkboy on the radio in whatever rural slum hes from.

Whether you believe she deserves her title or not is irrelevant. Angie Martinez on Hot 97 is Angie Martinez on Hot 97 and has been for a long time. And that name on that station is far from a slouch.

Yeah, thats the mark of a good career, but its also a sign of a career that needs to come to a close.

 

[Ego Noir]

Yeah, thats the mark of a good career, but its also a sign of a career that needs to come to a close.

Flex needs to be thrown in there too. His spins go, but theyre mostly old shyt and only cause im 25 can i rock with it.

But the problem lies with whats coming out of New York, not the DJs.

Outside of A$AP (and to an extent Troy Ave) these other dudes dont bring anything special as far as Hip-hop at large. Even Joey Bada$$ is just filling a void of nostalgia that nobody outside of purists gives a fukk about anymore. No respect for the NY music scene = no respect for the NY DJs. Why respect them when you dont need them?

New York needs to evolve and stop chasing the boom bap era (like joey), or the dipset/gunit era (like Troy).

Chinx drugs, vado and all the rest of them just remind me of the dipset era and marks no progression. I personally welcome the A$AP style as an evolved version of NYmusic I personally only think theyre the ones making good music thats not jocking another style.

 

[cformusic]

NY will come back, but nobody will be able to predict when it will happen or who will make it happen because the movement that will "bring NY back" has to come from outside of the current crumbling infrastructure. But everything goes in cycles, so eventually NY will get their shot again.

 

[UpAndComing]

Angie Martinez is 43.

Theres NO WAY shes going home and listening to what 17-20 year olds are making.

Its insulting to even think she would.

Exactly. Most of the NY radio is just a bunch of old heads that got their start in '83. Completely out of touch
They have no clue how to tackle the new wave of NY Hip Hop artists

Just like that Forbez DVD radio show. One time the host was like "I don't care what anyone says, Tradegy Khadafi is the best rapper to come out of QueensBridge, better than Nas"

 

[Knicksman20]

Ur kind is also the reason why Ny's comeback will never happen

Judging by your rep & comment, I see why hip hop is in the state it's in now