If he completely retired tomorrow, Would Eminem be Top5 dead or alive?

[L. Deezy]

Y'all really try to make Em the Elvis of rap.. He's good, I just dont count his votes. I dont eeen know no black people with an Em album anymore..

 

[Street Knowledge]

His catalogue is below average

 

[Still Benefited]

You're gonna tell me that if a black artist, with the same skill and diversity and concept songs as Eminem were to come along he would be ranked higher? First...there has been a number of emcees as skilled and diverse as Em. Did they ever have even a modicum of Eminem's acclaim? Eminem gets rated over dudes with otherworldly skills and have been much more consistent. Common, Blackthought, Redman, etc..should be ranked above Eminem in GOAT lists. Second...Eminem HIMSELF on several occasions ADMITTED that his success is greatly attributed to his skin color.

The success is the keypart...if a Blackthought,Redman or Common blewup and was the highest selling rapper of all time they would be beloved,but obviously as black men they would make better music that relates to black folks....I basically made up an imaginary scenario that would never happen...as much as being white might be his handicap as to why he can't make music that appeals to black folks who really decide the goat list,the success he has had becuz he is white is the only reason he's mentioned in these top all time list anyway...so as wrong as sum of y'all may think we wrong bcuz we say "we can't relate bcuz he's white" basically....stop cryin like his race ain't been a tremendous boost to his career....its poetic justice he should have to deal with a handicap considering the advantages he's had....and no bein whites not an advantage for every white rapper,but it is for those few who break thru and he wuz one of em...and his "handicap" is sum shyt he might not and probaly doesn't even care about(appealing to black people)

 

[inndaskKy]

You think Jay's cornier songs are cornier than EM's? I don't think Jay has ever done a song as bad as Puke, Fack and most of the Encore album and a bunch of others. You not think the Jay songs I mentioned were somewhat deep? For instance I love his verse on I Still Got Love For You, I found that pretty deep and honest. I think a lot of it may be preference so might just be a case of just differing opinions and perspectives.

No, I meant Eminem makes cornier songs but he also makes more substantial songs.

 

[The Ruler 09]

No, I meant Eminem makes cornier songs but he also makes more substantial songs.

Oh I see, I agree on the cornier songs part, I don't think I agree on the makes more substantial songs part but I guess it depends what someone considers substantial.

 

[RammerJammer]

#1 White Rapper ever
Top 20 overall

 

[TheDream]

Stan and Kim puts him in the Top 10. IMO.

 

[Wacky D]

I don't think hes even in my top 40.

 

[DameDawgy]

I don't think hes even in my top 40.

Drop your top 40

 

[Danie84]

He's not even in my top 15

 

[28 Gramz]

1 great album, 2 good ones and a bunch of bullshyt don't get you on a top-5 list.

If you're talking just PURE SKILLS on the mic it's arguable but in a all-time list your body of work is the most important factor and placing ANY of Em's albums next to shyt like IWW,RD,Ready 2 Die,Me Against The World,ATLiens,Doggystyle etc...is laughable

Even second tier "classics" from lesser emcees are better TM101,400 Degreez,E.99 Eternal,Trap Musik,Tha Carter,Diplomatic Immunity and albums like that are higher on my list than MMLP off replay value alone.

 

[Wacky D]

Drop your top 40

my lists are exclusive to my threads.

but i'll say this much. 40 years of hip-hop, and you cant believe it when someone doesn't have Eminem in their top 40? a guy that never came close to making a classic album, and has like what? ONE certified classic song? not to mention minimal influence & genuine impact on the culture.

 

[Mike Otherz]

it even about race, i have no problem with cats putting the beasties in their top 10 groups , even top 5. them dudes made dope music. with em its less about race and more about artistry.

 

[The Ruler 09]

I'll drop some of the rappers I class above Eminem, in no order....

1: 2 Pac
2: KRS-One
3: K-Rino
4: AZ
5: Nas
6: Biggie
7: Jay Z
8: Rakim
9: Big Daddy Kane
10: Slick Rick
11: Kool G Rap
12: Big Pun
13: Fat Joe
14: Cormega
15: Last Emperor
16: Brother Ali
17: Slug
18: Vinnie Paz
19: Chuck D
20: Kool Moe Dee
21: Jadakiss
22: Beanie Sigel
23: Queen Latifah
24: Lauryn Hill
25: Guru
26: Common
27: Scarface
28: Pharaoh Monche
29: Immortal Technique
30: Chino XL
31: Kanye West
32: Saigon
33: Ras Kass
34: Raekwon
35: Canibus
36: Big L
37: Tragedy Khadafi
38: Melle Mel
39: Dr Dre
40: Stic Man
41: M1
42: Grand Puba
43: Havoc
44: Prodigy
45: Talib Kweli
46: Black Thought
47: Method Man
48: Redman
49: Ghostface
50: Z-Ro
51: Bizzy Bone
52: Andre 3000

Quite a few people I rate higher personally, probably forgot to mention a lot as just typed quickly.

 

[Scoop]

Yeah he is.

If he had simply retired after Curtain Call people would know it.