If Internet message and Social Media was around in 94,what would be the reception to illmatic Ect.
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Barry Sanders
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illmatic has been forced on to people that's all. illmatic was nothing but a footnote in 94. it had good promotion. got 5 mics from the source when the source was credible. and it flopped.
Why do people keep saying this?
Do people know exactly what was done to promote the album? Was it given more promotion than other rap albums in 94? How?
nikkas in here talking about 1st week sales like anybody gave a fukk about that shyt muthafukkas in here talking about what people was bumping like they wasn't 8 years old..
But Nas the man now dispute that
50 still got you nikkas brainwashed with this 1st week sales shyt
You fukks saying shyt was pushed down people's throats are you saying it ain't a classic album
But Nas the man now dispute that
50 still got you nikkas brainwashed with this 1st week sales shyt
You fukks saying shyt was pushed down people's throats are you saying it ain't a classic album
Raekwon did 130k first week
Jay Rd 43k
Jay Vol 1 138k
Ready to die almost 100k
Me against the world 240k with all them singles and the pub
but I guess it ain't a classic
Now Snoop was a lone exception that album was the most anticipated rap album to ever come out..
See my point I never knew about that shyt nobody gave a fukk,plus hip hop was not the dominating force it is now R&B ran the early 90's
Jay Rd 43k
Jay Vol 1 138k
Ready to die almost 100k
Me against the world 240k with all them singles and the pub
but I guess it ain't a classicNow Snoop was a lone exception that album was the most anticipated rap album to ever come out..
See my point I never knew about that shyt nobody gave a fukk,plus hip hop was not the dominating force it is now R&B ran the early 90's
Barry Sanders
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Why do people keep saying this?
Do people know exactly what was done to promote the album? Was it given more promotion than other rap albums in 94? How?
im old to remember when illmatic was released. it did have its promotion.
Nobody is saying it wasn't promoted at all. But people are acting like it was the most well promoted album in the history of hip hop...
I've seen no evidence it was promoted any more or less than any other similar east coast album at the time...
This has nothing to do with Nas. It just gets tiresome having to explain how the RIAA works.
Look at Snoop. "Doggystyle" was arguably the biggest rap album out at the time, and Snoop was easily the most eagerly anticipated solo artist.
"Doggystyle" went 4x plat as of May 1994. And....that's it. So....you're telling me that album fell off the map after that? You're telling me Interscope didn't ship 1 million more of those, anywhere in the U.S. at any point in the last 20 years?
You'd have to be retarded to believe that. There is no more certs, because Interscope stopped paying for them. Is Interscope poor? Of course not....but they're getting paid either way. Certs don't mean much.
Likewise, I doubt Columbia was worried about keeping their certs up to date so a guy could use it as a talking point on a message board 2 decades later.
As someone that was supposedly active during that era, you should know better. But you seem to have some kind of bizarre vendetta against Nas, so I'll let you cook.
Fred.
It's probable that Interscope isn't paying for certs because newer pressings of the album (as of 2003) were distributed by another label. It's not that they don't mean much, but it wouldn't make sense for them to pay for something that was distributed by Koch. I think the whole Death Row catalog became property of Koch in 2003 which would explain why Pac's AEOM is still stuck at 9X Platinum.
With Columbia, the certs mattered. It's not much of a coincidence that they'd ship additional copies of Illmatic to stores on the eve of It Was Written to get a gold certification for 500K shipped.
Anybody's guess is as good as mine (until we get the soundscan numbers) but I doubt that Illmatic sold/shipped 500k within a year of its release. Smart marketing dollars would be to pay for the certification after IWW dropped to get the cross promotion. "oh you like IWW??
Well his first album just went gold 
"But we are all guessing here
LogicFirst
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Breh, you're confusing word of mouth anticipation with promotion. Nobody knew the release date of the album.
LogicFirst
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Illmatic only matters to people who matter. It doesn't matter if you don't see what the big deal with Picasso is, the people and experts in that art genre do matter
LogicFirst
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You were too busy listening to Tevin Campbell and BoyzII Men at that time
LogicFirst
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You were too busy listening to Elton John in 94
Barry Sanders
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what's wrong listening to r&b? still doesnt take away the fact that illmatic flopped. and boyz II men second album
