In an absolute stunner Josh Allen has been named MVP over Lamar Jackson despite not making All-pro first team (First time since 1987)

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Not really a shocker.

Lamar statistically had a better year, but I think a few factors went against him -
  • He's already won the award 2x (voter fatigue similar to Embiid / Jokic)
  • Ravens had 6 All Pros on their team vs 0 with the Bills (makes it seem like Josh did more with less)
  • His teammate Derrick Henry was also an MVP candidate
I think Lamar should have won but I'm not shocked at this. That dude who voted Lamar 4th needs to get his voting rights revoked though.
 
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KidJSoul said:
This applied to Allen to this year too

the bills clinched their spot so Allen sat the last game, and he sat multiple 4th quarters

I don't know about 90% but Henry being there changes team's gameplans.

And the big thing you're ignoring is that when Henry rushed for under 90 yards, the ravens had a LOSING record. He was arguably an MVP candidate himself.


You're last paragraph - a few people did actually say this a little bit - it's why Steve McNair split the MVP with him in 03 despite Peyton having more TDs, Yards, and wins.

And it's why many feel Peyton didn't deserve all 5 of his MVPs
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Cats are throwing away the same logic that was used against CMC/Purdy now that it apples to Lamar Iverson.
 
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thelonious21 said:
CMC, Dak or Josh

ALL HAD BETTER STATISTICAL SEASONS!!!

but guess what.. he did more with less .. and he won it..

NOW yall want to stat watch because the player YALL LIKE MORE AND IDENTIFY WITH didn't win.. now its a fukking travesty ..stop it 5
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well, first off you can eliminate CMC because unfortunately the MVP race has come down to strictly quarterbacks

Dak played a week schedule and most of the big-time games he came up small

Josh went 11–6 and had to win the final game against the Dolphins just to make it into the playoffs plus he had 22 turnovers


listen, if you don’t like Lamar, that’s cool to each is own
but you’re making a bunch of bullshyt excuses your analogies are not apples to apples. You’re trying to say we want to use stats over wins. He won his division and was the third seed in the AFC. with gis HOF kicker losing at least 3 games this season and did that with the hardest schedule in the whole entire NFL
 
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The only thing I'll ever give these people credit for is how talented they are at masking their racism.

Nobody black actually ever falls for it, but I personally appreciate the creativity, and the rest of the world eats it up.

A QB has one of the best seasons in the history of the sport and isn't rewarded the games most prestigious individual accolade.

This type of thing could ONLY happen to a black man.
 
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Versa said:
The only thing I'll ever give these people credit for is how talented they are at masking their racism.

Nobody black actually ever falls for it, but I personally appreciate the creativity, and the rest of the world eats it up.

A QB has one of the best seasons in the history of the sport and isn't rewarded the games most prestigious individual accolade.

This type of thing could ONLY happen to a black man.
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+ the added component of being dark-skinned, braids, grills, South Florida accent, and pro-black

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Standing on business said:
Naw, Cam Newton was definitely the most valuable the year he won it.
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Brady got sacked 38 times. Oline was just terrible. Had no running game. It was a miracle that team went to afcc.

Brady was the best player, but didnt have the narrative and went on a losing streak at the end.
 
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Blessings said:
apnews.com

How they voted: Josh Allen wins AP NFL MVP award

Josh Allen beat out two-time winner Lamar Jackson for the Most Valuable Player award in the closest race since Matt Ryan beat out Tom Brady in 2016.
apnews.com apnews.com


MVP Voter1st Place2nd Place3rd Place4th Place5th Place
Pat KirwanJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJared Goff
Tom SilversteinLamar JacksonJoe BurrowJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
MIke SandoLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowPatrick MahomesSaquon Barkley
Mike JonesLamar JacksonJosh AllenPatrick MahomesSaquon BarkleyJoe Burrow
Doug FarrarLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyPatrick Mahomes
Armando SalgueroLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Nate DavisLamar JacksonJosh AllenJared GoffJayden DanielsBaker Mayfield
Charean WilliamsJosh AllenLamar JacksonJared GoffJoe BurrowSaquon Barkley
Rich GannonJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Lindsay JonesJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Mark CraigJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJayden DanielsJared Goff
Jarrett BellLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJoe Burrow
Chris SimmsJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJa’Marr Chase
Laura OkminJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Dan PompeiLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowPatrick MahomesJared Goff
Adam ScheinJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Dave BirkettLamar JacksonJosh AllenJared GoffSaquon BarkleyPatrick Mahomes
Vic CarucciJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Lorenzo ReyesLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Anthony DiGuilioJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Jonathan JonesJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowPatrick Mahomes
Jori EpsteinJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Mike FlorioLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Charles RobinsonJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJa’Marr Chase
Michael SilverJosh AllenLamar JacksonJared GoffSaquon BarkleyPatrick Mahomes
Nora PrinciottiJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJustin HerbertJoe Burrow
Mike TiricoLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Pete PriscoJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Nick PavlatosJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Aaron SchatzLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowPatrick MahomesJared Goff
Tony DungyLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJustin HerbertJayden Daniels
Ben VolinJosh AllenLamar JacksonJared GoffSaquon BarkleySam Darnold
Diante LeeLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJustin HerbertJayden Daniels
Reuben FrankLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Jim MillerJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowLamar JacksonPatrick Mahomes
Bruce MurrayJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Dianna RussiniLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Kay AdamsLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJoe Burrow
Ira KaufmanJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJoe Burrow
Gary MeyersJosh AllenLamar JacksonJared GoffSaquon BarkleyJoe Burrow
Aditi KinkhabwalaJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Sam MonsonLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleySam Darnold
Tom BradyLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJa’Marr ChaseJoe Burrow
Tedy BruschiLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJa’Marr ChasePatrick Mahomes
John McMullenJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleySam Darnold
Greg AumanLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyBaker Mayfield
Mina KimesLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJayden Daniels
Tom CurranJosh AllenLamar JacksonPatrick MahomesSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Dan OrlovskyJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJayden Daniels
Emmanuel AchoJosh AllenLamar JacksonPatrick MahomesSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
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I wonder how long jim miller been in the Kkk
 
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