Interesting question - are Australian Aboriginals black?

[Will Ross]

Yes they are black

 

[Mowgli]

Without a true nationality?

I hope your fully on board with ados/fba

It's all we've got now.

 

[Pure Water]

By what we in America would consider black. no. In fact their speaking in terms of genetics, the average black African is more related to an average European than they are an Australian Aboriginal.

But culturally, one may integrate better in black culture in the US based on phenotype just due to physical appearance playing a larger role in human interaction.

 

[King]

No.

Black is not a 'race', but an ethnic group WITHIN the human race.​

Black isn’t an ethnic group. It’s a fake pseudoscience classification of people created by white men in the 1700s that is in no way indicative of genetic reality. Black isn’t an ethnicity either. Ethnicities of ‘black’ people (in the racialized sense) exist within a diaspora of hundreds of ethnicities.

Once that distinction is made, we can begin to clear up the confusion.

Only thing that has come from us bringing Africans under the Black banner is more confusion.

We need to start gatekeeping our culture.

Letting everyone identify as Black, and then they turn around and shyt on FBA’s specifically for cac crumbs.

You have it wrong breh. The fact that people can’t differentiate between race, ethnicity, and culture is why this is the case.

Black people in America, who are descendants of slaves, have no uniformed defined identity. We have no real term, therefore we indentify as black out of necessity.

Except that is a racial term that includes anyone who would be classified as black by the whites who created it. Jessie Jackson tried to create one in the 80s with “African American” but we see how that basically includes all African immigrants.

It’s why ADOS is a damn near perfect term - “American Descents of Slaves” no confusion in that. The fact that we can’t accurately define ourselves is why other groups of people can falsely claim to be us when it benefits them, YET identify as their own unique ethnic category when it doesn’t. We don’t have that privilege because there aren’t clear distinctions.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

It's all we've got now.

Well we did have “black” the thing is we pumped it up with cultural visibility and clout, now everyone wants in on it

 

[NoirDynosaur]

Australian Aboriginals (Oceania) are mainly Denisovans. Same as Dravidians of South India and Southeast Asians (Philippines, Indonesia)

People from Papua New Guinea and north-east Australia carry small amounts of DNA of an unidentified, extinct human species, a new research analysis has suggested.

Key points:​

• Statistical geneticist carried out research analysis on percentages of extinct hominid DNA in modern humans
• "Discrepancies" in previous analyses show interbreeding between Neanderthals and Denisovans "is not the whole story"
• Researchers believe a third group, separate to Neanderthals and Denisovans, contributes to Pacific Islanders' DNA

The analysis suggests the DNA is unlikely to come from Neanderthals or Denisovans, but from a third extinct hominid, previously unknown to archaeologists.

Statistical geneticist Ryan Bohlender and his team investigated the percentages of extinct hominid DNA in modern humans.

They found discrepancies in previous analyses and found that interbreeding between Neanderthals and Denisovans was not the whole story to our ancestors' genetic makeup.

Mr Bohlender presented his analysis to the American Society of Human Genetics in Canada, saying that scientists were either "missing a population" or "misunderstanding something about the relationships".

What does the discovery mean?​

Mr Bohlender and his colleague used a computer model to figure out the amount of Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA carried by modern humans.

They found Europeans and Chinese people carry about 2.8 per cent of Neanderthal DNA.

But Europeans have no Denisovan ancestry, and Chinese people only have 0.1 per cent.

Modern populations from South Pacific regions including Vanuatu, the Solomon Islands, Fiji, Papua New Guinea, New Caledonia, West Papua, and the Maluku Islands have 2.74 per cent of their DNA as coming from Neanderthals.

Mr Bohlender estimates the amount of Denisovan DNA in these people is as low as about 1.11 per cent, not the 3 to 6 per cent estimated by other researchers.

Therefore, Mr Bohlender and his colleagues came to the conclusion that a third group of hominids may have bred with the ancestors of Melanesians.

"The sequencing of complete Neanderthal and Denisovan genomes has provided several insights into human history," Mr Bohlender said.

"One important insight stems from the observation that modern non-Africans and archaic populations share more derived alleles than they should if there was no admixture between them.

"We now know that the ancestors of modern non-Africans met, and introgressed with, Neanderthals and Denisovans."

Neanderthal, Denisovan — what's the difference?​

Neanderthals and Denisovans are two hominid species that migrated out of Africa.

According to theory, Neanderthals left Africa about 300,000 years ago, settling in Europe and parts of western Asia.

The rich history of Aboriginal Australians​

The most comprehensive genomic study of Indigenous Australians confirms they are the descendants of the first people to inhabit Australia.

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The Denisovan species was only discovered in 2008 when paleoanthropologists discovered a 40,0000-year-old tooth and pinkie bone from a young girl in a Siberian cave.

Scientists examined the DNA from the bone and found that, although the girl was closely related to Neanderthals, it was distinct enough to merit classification as a new species.

There was a genetic overlap between the Denisovan genome and that of some present-day east Asians, and a group of Pacific Islanders living in Papua New Guinea.

This is why the discovery of a possible third hominid species is a remarkable discovery, especially considering the discovery was made from DNA of modern people.

Unidentified species flagged in Aboriginal Australian DNA​

Mr Bohlender's findings are supported by an earlier study from the University of Cambridge which sequenced the genome of 83 Aboriginal Australians from the Pama-Nyungan-speaking language group, which covers 90 per cent of the continent, and 25 Highland Papuans.

It revealed Papuan and Aboriginal ancestors left Africa around 72,000 years ago and then split from the main group around 58,000 years ago.

They reached the supercontinent of 'Sahul' that originally united Tasmania, mainland Australia and New Guinea around 50,000 years ago, picking up the DNA of Neanderthals, Denisovans and another extinct hominin along the way

DNA of unidentified, extinct species found in Pacific Islander people: research analysis
Who Are The Denisovans?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Black is a color.

Belonging to ethnic groups ot tribes are a different thing.

Not all Black people are from Africa.

Wrong. All Black people trace our ancestry back to African slaves about 400 years ago.

We are a unique ethnic group just like Zulu and Hausa. We have our own languages, cultures, philosophies, histories, heritage, etc.​

 

[JoelB]

no, they are not

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

**DELETE**​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

They are Asian. Similar to the Black people in New Guinea and on Easter Island.

They aren't Black, either. Same with the Andamanese and many Continental Indians.​

 

[Solomon Caine]

The amount of times I’ve been called black fella or black c*nt by one. I’m not even mad tho, it’s just a confusing experience all together

But one thing I don’t tolerate is people that are pretty much cac talking about I’m 0.00004% aboriginal.

 

[Mowgli]

Well we did have “black” the thing is we pumped it up with cultural visibility and clout, now everyone wants in on it

We told the diaspora that they are in on it as many women of African descent but I think for some the term black strips cultural and national identity and for others aligns them with black people they don't want to be associated with. I think we didn't understand how deep nationality is tied to Identity and culture.

To your point now that we're serious about our Justice claim terms are being refinanced and reappropriated back to the locals

 

[CHICAGO]

BLACKS ARE INDIGENOUS
TO EVERY PART OF THIS PLANET
NOT JUST AFRICA.


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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Black isn’t an ethnic group.

Then neither is Zulu or Hausa or Fulani or Igbo or.......

It sure as HELL isn't a 'race'.

THAT is pseudoscience created by Europeans for the express purpose of oppression and isn't grounded in actual science at all.

Ethnicity - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

THIS is what actual science states ...

"Race" = Bullshyt, According to Science

AAPA Statement on Race & Racism Race does not provide an accurate representation of human biological variation. It was never accurate in the past, and it remains inaccurate when referencing contemporary human populations. Humans are not divided biologically into distinct continental types or...

www.thecoli.com

 

[Inokja]

Many different groups, especially living in the western world for example may casually refer to themselves as "brown" (middle east, south asian/"desi", mestizos, indigenous americans, etc). These include many distinct people, but you might hear someone from each of those groups refer to themselves as "brown"
"Black" is no different. The only confusion is that many black people (Afro descent) have never had any interactions with melanesian and australian aboriginal peoples to even hear of another population like them being refered to as "black" as well. so "black" is like a synonym for african our minds.