Interesting question - are Australian Aboriginals black?

[King]

Then neither is Zulu or Hausa or Fulani or Igbo or.......

It sure as HELL isn't a 'race'.

THAT is pseudoscience created by Europeans for the express purpose of oppression and isn't grounded in actual science at all.

Ethnicity - Wikipedia

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THIS is what actual science states ...

"Race" = Bullshyt, According to Science

AAPA Statement on Race & Racism Race does not provide an accurate representation of human biological variation. It was never accurate in the past, and it remains inaccurate when referencing contemporary human populations. Humans are not divided biologically into distinct continental types or...

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You act as if I didn’t say multiple times in this thread that the idea of race is pseudoscience, what the actual science is, and explained how it came to be?

Are you dense? You don’t even know what you’re saying. You just wanted to post that bullshyt thread of yours like always, go on somewhere

 

[KamikazePilot]

It’s a tough question to answer and it really depends on how you see race

Do they look “Black” yes and when white people were creating race they grouped African Blacks and Asian Blacks as one “Negroid Race”

If we’re talking “genetically” Race makes no sense in any way and we should really stop talking about it if you want to think genetically because Africa is the most genetically diverse place in the world and Black Americans and Africans aren’t even the same genetically the average Igbo and Yoruba person are more genetically diverse than a German and an Indian.

If we’re talking ethnicity the Black only refers to one people which are Black Americans some use “African-American” I don’t like the term. Some of us use other names.

So which is right all this shows is that race is a fraud concept Made by Germans in the 1700s to group people by phenotype but my answer is Yes they’re black they’re just Asian Black instead of African Black.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

You act as if I didn’t say multiple times in this thread that the idea of race is pseudoscience, what the actual science is, and explained how it came to be?

No, I just needed to correct this bullshyt you posted.....​

Black isn’t an ethnic group. It’s a fake pseudoscience classification of people created by white men in the 1700s that is in no way indicative of genetic reality.

"White" men used Black to classify a 'race', not an ethnic group.

Black is an ethnic group.

Are YOU dense or just not paying attention to what I actually said?​

 

[Northern Son]

They can call themselves black because that is the color of their skin, but they are a distinct, separate group from Africans. There is more to race/heritage than skin color. Thinking it's all about color is a very misguided and superficial way of classifiying people. Even looking at just the superficial, they have many traits that are distinct from Africans including their hair and facial features. They are black the same way that both Filipinos and Pakistanis are brown, and the same way Koreans and Europeans are white.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

theres gotta be more to this than phenotype

 

[Northern Son]

This is one of many examples why race as a concept is bullshyt
Cacs are more African, genetically, then these people but because their skin is dark….they’re “black”
No offense to them , but we have nothing in common with these people besides evolving near the equator and getting our shyt ran thru by cacs

I completely agree

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This is one of many examples why race as a concept is bullshyt
Cacs are more African, genetically, then these people but because their skin is dark….they’re “black”
No offense to them , but we have nothing in common with these people besides evolving near the equator and getting our shyt ran thru by cacs

 

[King]

No, I just needed to correct this bullshyt you posted.....


"White" men used Black to classify a 'race', not an ethnic group.

Black is an ethnic group.

Are YOU dense or just not paying attention to what I actually said?​

Stop being dense and post the full quote. I’m not gonna argue with you because I’m speaking facts. And one thing you aren’t going to do is reduce a nuanced topic down to a reductionist take of “science says racism is bullshyt” like I haven’t already taken that into account and established that BEFORE making my statement.

Quit the bullshyt.

Black isn’t an ethnic group. It’s a fake pseudoscience classification of people created by white men in the 1700s that is in no way indicative of genetic reality. Black isn’t an ethnicity either. Ethnicities of ‘black’ people (in the racialized sense) exist within a diaspora of hundreds of ethnicities.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Stop being dense and post the full quote. I’m not gonna argue with you because I’m speaking facts. And one thing you aren’t going to do is reduce a nuanced topic down to a reductionist take of “science says racism is bullshyt” like I haven’t already taken that into account and established that BEFORE making my statement.

Quit the bullshyt.

You completely ignored my actual statement so YOU stop the bullshyt and stop being dense.

Science says 'RACE' is BULLSHYT, but you conflated it with ethnicity and misrepresented what I stated.

I ain't reducing anything that actual science hasn't already invalidated.

Black people are a unique ethnic group descended from Africans.​

 

[Giselle]

From my understanding they have no African DNA in the modern sense but they look like what we would think of as black people.

This is the same argument of saying native Americans weren’t black. The same black indigenous in Australia were the same type of black indigenous in the Americas along with the natives of Asian ancestry. Yes they’re distant descendants of Africans, yes they’re black

 

[Elim Garak]

This is the same argument of saying native Americans weren’t black. The same black indigenous in Australia were the same type of black indigenous in the Americas along with the natives of Asian ancestry. Yes they’re distant descendants of Africans, yes they’re black

Everyone is distant descendants of Africans that's why I said in the modern sense.

 

[King]

You completely ignored my actual statement so YOU stop the bullshyt and stop being dense.

Science says 'RACE' is BULLSHYT, but you conflated it with ethnicity and misrepresented what I stated.

I ain't reducing anything that actual science hasn't already invalidated.

Black people are a unique ethnic group descended from Africans.​

“Black” people is a race of people. You are conflating race and ethnicity.

Black people are not an ethnic group. There is no such thing as a “black” person from an ethnological perspective. However, for example, the desendant of African slaves brought to the US would commonly be referred to as African American or more recently ADOS. That is their ETHNICITY as a UNIQUE ETHNIC GROUP.

Or in a racialized context (KEYWORD RACIALIZED) would be referred to as a Black American. But as we know race is bullshyt. So why use such outdated and scientifically false terminology? So perhaps you should read your own thread instead of spewing misinformation.

And in your case, you are conflating race, ethnicity, and nationality into one with that last bullshyt statement of yours. Who does that refer to? Who is black? Are Africans not black? Why is there a distinction, what makes black people unique from Africans? Again these are all RHETORICAL QUESTIONS to point out your bullshyt fallacious reasoning. And fundamental misunderstanding of race and ethnicity.

I have no idea where you’re getting this from. You are misinterpreting everything I’ve said thus far and taking my words out of context.

Even in cases where race/ethnicity are used interchangeably (which is what I’n against) there’s still a distinction. There’s a reason why even on statistical census questionnaires it states “Race/Ethnicity” followed by “Black/African American”. As in RACE=BLACK. ETHNICITY=African American.

And fyi black is a standin for Negro, as the term is no longer politically correct.

 

[Samori Toure]

It’s a tough question to answer and it really depends on how you see race

Do they look “Black” yes and when white people were creating race they grouped African Blacks and Asian Blacks as one “Negroid Race”

If we’re talking “genetically” Race makes no sense in any way and we should really stop talking about it if you want to think genetically because Africa is the most genetically diverse place in the world and Black Americans and Africans aren’t even the same genetically the average Igbo and Yoruba person are more genetically diverse than a German and an Indian.

If we’re talking ethnicity the Black only refers to one people which are Black Americans some use “African-American” I don’t like the term. Some of us use other names.

So which is right all this shows is that race is a fraud concept Made by Germans in the 1700s to group people by phenotype but my answer is Yes they’re black they’re just Asian Black instead of African Black.

White people even named the country of "New Guinea" in Asia after the region called "Guinea" in West Africa. West Africa's Guinea had an upper and a lower section that encompassed the entirety of West Africa. Now days there is a country called Guinea in West Africa. A country called Equatorial Guinea in Central Africa and a country called New Guinea in Asia.

An interesting side note is the reason that White people thought that Africans did not wear clothes and were cannibals and head hunters and had bones in their noses was because of the Black people in Asia. The Black people in Asia were isolated and for the most part didn't engage in a lot of trade with outsiders and were fairly primitive. Africans on the other hand have always had major Empires, trade, religion, governments, taxes, etc. Africans, except for the pygmies, and other hunter gatherer societies, had always worn clothes and they had textile industries for over a thousand years where they had grown and died cotton, rafia and other fabrics. So this is more proof that the average White person knows nothing about geography, cultures or history because Asia is nowhere near Africa yet White people conflated different cultures.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

“Black” people is a race of people.

Absolutely wrong according to science.

Miss me with the dissertations as your first sentence is invalid.​

 

[King]

Absolutely wrong according to science.

Miss me with the dissertations as your first sentence is invalid.​

You’re an idiot. As soon as you’re hit with facts you dismiss them.

In fact, your own thread proves my statement to be factually correct.

I suggest you read that thread of yours you keep pulling out of your ass, genius

AAPA Statement on Race & Racism
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Race does not provide an accurate representation of human biological variation. It was never accurate in the past, and it remains inaccurate when referencing contemporary human populations. Humans are not divided biologically into distinct continental types or racial genetic clusters. Instead, the Western concept of race must be understood as a classification system that emerged from, and in support of, European colonialism, oppression, and discrimination. It thus does not have its roots in biological reality, but in policies of discrimination. Because of that, over the last five centuries, race has become a social reality that structures societies and how we experience the world. In this regard, race is real, as is racism, and both have real biological consequences.

Humans share the vast majority (99.9%) of our DNA in common. Individuals nevertheless exhibit substantial genetic and phenotypic variability. Genome/environment interactions, local and regional biological changes through time, and genetic exchange among populations have produced the biological diversity we see in humans today. Notably, variants are not distributed across our species in a manner that maps clearly onto socially-recognized racial groups. This is true even for aspects of human variation that we frequently emphasize in discussions of race, such as facial features, skin color and hair type. No group of people is, or ever has been, biologically homogeneous or “pure.” Furthermore, human populations are not — and never have been — biologically discrete, truly isolated, or fixed.

While race does not accurately represent the patterns of human biological diversity, an abundance of scientific research demonstrates that racism, prejudice against someone because of their race and a belief in the inherent superiority and inferiority of different racial groups, affects our biology, health, and well-being. This means that race, while not a scientifically accurate biological concept, can have important biological consequences because of the effects of racism. The belief in races as a natural aspect of human biology and the institutional and structural inequities (racism) that have emerged in tandem with such beliefs in European colonial contexts are among the most damaging elements in human societies.