Is Mahomes the best QB you've ever seen?

[The Frozen One]

I like Mahomes and i think he is really good, but unless he wins multiple super bowl ring (3+) and multiple mvp awards, i can't put him at an all time level great yet.

I think it's way too early. It's only his 3rd full season, he can get injured and not be the same player as he is now.

Based on experience and level of work, i put him in the same category as Wilson and Rodgers but slightly lower than them cause they've been doing it longer.

 

[South Paw]

naw
2010-2011 Vick
Ratings aren't far off and Vick actually still got popped by defenders and had lesser weapons imo

 

[CrimsonTider]

I want to see Mahomes with a crew of lesser weapons

You will once that extension kicks in

 

[BucciMane]

naw
2010-2011 Vick
Ratings aren't far off and Vick actually still got popped by defenders and had lesser weapons imo

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[Chris Cool]

Cheating system qb

Mahomes peak years are already better

He gotta get the rings though.

 

[desjardins]

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fukk yall aghast for
I gave a specific year for a QB that impressed me more
i ain't even bring up how he had buco yards rushing those years too
If you don't think that version of Vick would eat on these mahomes teams, in this era don't know what to say

 

[L@CaT]

I’ve never seen a quarterback get as many BS TD passes on those reverse shovel passes like Patrick Mahomes. He has the luxury of having Andy Reid who might be the greatest offensive mind in NFL history and has Hall if Fame talent at the skill positions. I don’t think I’ve see receivers get as wide open as Hill and Kelce do on a consistent basis. We won’t know how truly great he is until some of those weapons fade.

But he’s off to great start.

 

[Trojan 24]

Breh doing too much

 

[Roid Jones]

Having a heated discussion at work after I said this to one of my guys at the job (older 50+ year old breh) some of the other names people threw out was Marino, Rodgers and Elway.

It's a generational question really

 

[Trojan 24]

You will once that extension kicks in

@Chip Skylark working the jug machine right now getting ready for his shot. I heard they going to be calling random brehs out the crowd once he starts getting paid

 

[RhodyRum]

I’ve never seen a quarterback get as many BS TD passes on end around reverses* like Patrick Mahomes. He has the luxury of having Andy Reid who might be the greatest offensive mind in NFL history and has Hall if Fame talent at the skill positions. I don’t think I’ve see receivers get as wide open as Hill and Kelce do on a consistent basis.** We won’t know how truly great he is until some of those weapons fade.

But he’s off to great start.

** = Agreed 100%
* = TDs resulting from end arounds or reverses don't count as a TD thrown by the QB.

 

[South Paw]

fukk yall aghast for
I gave a specific year for a QB that impressed me more
i ain't even bring up how he had buco yards rushing those years too
If you don't think that version of Vick would eat on these mahomes teams, in this era don't know what to say

I love Vick but there's about 10 qbs I could put over him, even w his peak year under reid.

Y'all prop Vick up to gawd status and try to rewrite history


Also if we talking mobile dual threat qbs

Russ >>> Vick at this point

 

[Stop_It_5]

I want to see Mahomes with a crew of lesser weapons

How much lesser ? He has one good WR (Reek) and one good TE (Kelce), to go lower than that suggests you want him to play with scraps. Hardman's a gadget player, Watkins is a shell of himself (and hurt half the time), Robinson & Pringles are nobodies. They've gone from Kareem Hunt to Damien Williams in the backfield during his tenure and kept it pushing.

Andy's a great coach, but Mahomes is producing at a higher rate than any of his former QBs, by a lot. It's no coincidence that Andy had almost two decades filled with playoff heartbreak, and by year two with Pat he immediately gets over the hump.

 

[Chip Skylark]

Jon Gruden thinks so

 

[South Paw]

How much lesser ? He has one good WR (Reek) and one good TE (Kelce), to go lower than that suggests you want him to play with scraps. Hardman's a gadget player, Watkins is a shell of himself (and hurt half the time), Robinson & Pringles are nobodies. They've gone from Kareem Hunt to Damien Williams in the backfield during his tenure and kept it pushing.

Andy's a great coach, but Mahomes is producing at a higher rate than any of his former QBs, by a lot. It's no coincidence that Andy had almost two decades filled with playoff heartbreak, and by year two with Pat he immediately gets over the hump.

Tyreek and kelce are game changers and ceh is one of the leagues leaders in rushing

Kc been running way more this year too and they way more balanced which helps