It’s time to have an honest conversation about the Jamaican sprinters.

[<<TheStandard>>]

He's the most blessed human being.

I was at the national stadium when he was running U-17 200 and 400. He was elite at both at that level but had injury issues. When he went professional and focused on the sprints, it was just a matter of time till he dominated (if he stayed healthy). The height in combination with the turnover rate was going to be devastating. Other sprinters have had the same turnover rate but a longer set of legs made him the anomaly.


There have been tall sprinters since(remember Ryan Bailey, Polo association to Bolt's Ralph Lauren) but they just didn't have the right combination. Anything can happen but I don't think we'll ever see anyone run as fast in our lifetimes. You waste your time casting suspicions instead of enjoying what was the best moment in track and field history. Doping is so prevalent in sprinting that everyone has 2 degrees of separation from a doper, but that in itself does not make them a doper. No one was drug tested more than Bolt, y'all spent all them resources trying to find something that wasn't there.

Sounds like you WANT him to be the most blessed human being that ever lived as opposed to facing reality.

I did enjoy watching Bolt it doesn't take away from the fact that his records are suspicious.

You won't see anyone run as fast in our lifetimes because like Barry, he's simultaneously the GOAT while also being on PEDs.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Yeah Bolt who trained exclusively in Jamaica, was drug tested more than anyone else and never tested dirty(and never ducked a teat either), was apparently not clean.

GTFOH, and on behalf of all of Jamaica, suck you mada.

Exactly these Murikkka fakkits are retarded…

It’s common knowledge Bolt was tested MORE THAN ANYBODY in track to discredit his world record and he NEVER tested dirty…Came back and smoked the field in every heat he was in…

 

[that guy]

When they do these "Enhanced Olympics" people are in for a rude awakening when the times are the similar to what we've seen in the actual Olympics.

I was just thinking this. Imagine if they had an Olympics where steroid use was permitted and they had the same performance as “clean” athletes

 

[KillerB88]

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That’s an asterisk by the way


When discussing Flo Jo, it’s widely accepted that her world record times are because of steroids, when discussing Bolt they act is it’s because he was naturally that much faster.

Usain ran a 4.2 in street clothes in the off season on a whim. His speed is legit.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

I was just thinking this. Imagine if they had an Olympics where steroid use was permitted and they had the same performance as “clean” athletes

They're actually planning this

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The ‘Steroid Olympics’: Inside the PED-Friendly Enhanced Games

It’s been labelled everything from a publicity stunt to downright dangerous, but supporters of the Enhanced Games say it’s a natural evolution of sport

www.menshealth.com

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Exactly these Murikkka fakkits are retarded…

It’s common knowledge Bolt was tested MORE THAN ANYBODY in track to discredit his world record and he NEVER tested dirty…Came back and smoked the field in every heat he was in…

Unless the JADCO (which was a total joke) goes back and test his samples 10-20 years after the fact then him never testing dirty is irrelevant.

The PEDs are always ahead of the test.

You guys should really watch the ESPN 30 for 30: 9.79

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and also do your research on Victor Conte. There's people literally designing designer steroids/PEDs that go undetected.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Unless the JADCO (which was a total joke) goes back and test his samples 10-20 years after the fact then him never testing dirty is irrelevant.

The PEDs are always ahead of the test.

You guys should really watch the ESPN 30 for 30: 9.79

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Visit ESPN to get up-to-the-minute sports news coverage, scores, highlights and commentary for Football, Cricket, Rugby, F1, Golf, Tennis, NFL, NBA and more.

www.espn.com

and also do your research on Victor Conte. There's people literally designing designer steroids/PEDs that go undetected.

How do you explain all the Murikkkans getting caught doping yet Bolt never did?

You seriously think a dude from Jamaica has better access to designer BALCO juice than Murikkkans funded and trained by the US Olympic committee ?

 

[LexDiamonds]

Eveybody knows that they had been cheating for years. Catching them has been the problem as it has also been the problem among sprinters in every other country. Before Bolt there was a dude named Asafa Powell from Jamaica. He was the world record holder in the 100 meters, until he got popped.

Jamaican sprinter Asafa Powell banned in positive doping test​

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Then a bunch of more of them got popped.

Jamaica doping scandals tip of iceberg, says senior drug tester​

Jamaica doping scandals tip of iceberg, says senior drug tester

Jamaica's most senior drug tester says the country's recent rash of failed tests might be the "tip of an iceberg".

www.bbc.com

I am old enough to remember when Donovan Bailey got popped. He was Jamaican born and he ran for Canada.

Twenty-five years after his Olympic success, Donovan Bailey still thinks he’s the best, but he knows Andre De Grasse can be, too​

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/2754894/2021/08/06/twenty-five-years-after-his-olympic-success-donovan-bailey-still-thinks-hes-the-best-but-he-knows-andre-de-grasse-can-be-too/

Shelly Anne Frasyer was popped. Jamaican born Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson was popped. What are the chances that Bolt was clean?

Donovan Bailey never got popped. You’re thinking of Ben Johnson.

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

Sounds like you WANT him to be the most blessed human being that ever lived as opposed to facing reality.

I did enjoy watching Bolt it doesn't take away from the fact that his records are suspicious.

You won't see anyone run as fast in our lifetimes because like Barry, he's simultaneously the GOAT while also being on PEDs.

I'm guessing Bolt was a national 9.8 guy in his prime. Roids took him to a new level. Retired before 30 because he knew he would've needed to get more aggressive with his use to stay at 'his level', which would've probably got him caught.

Simple

 

[mastermind]

Wait Shelly lifetime PR before 2008 was 11:35 then pops up a year later running a 10:78 at the Olympics




Ima have to fact check that cause of that’s true

She was 21 in 2008

You dudes are so stuck on ignorance.

 

[Standing on business]

She was 21 in 2008

You dudes are so stuck on ignorance.

Dropping almost a second off your PR in less than a year normal?



Ignorance is thinking these athletes aren’t using peds

 

[Samori Toure]

Donovan Bailey never got popped. You’re thinking of Ben Johnson.

I think that I read something by Ben Johnson stating that Bailey had been popped. I will look for that article. Anyway Bolt's Jamaican teammate and training partner Yohan Blake got popped and a bunch of other Jamaican sprinters got popped in 2008:

Bolt's friend Blake named as one of five athletes to have failed a drugs test​

ATHLETICS: Bolt's friend Blake named as one of five to have failed a drugs test

As they gathered in their thousands for the London Grand Prix, a cloud passed across the sun. And the entire sport of track and field shivered in apprehension.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Here is an article of all the Jamaican and Russian athletes that had to be retested in 2008 after the Olympics:

:https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/2.7171/track-field/jamaican-athlete-drug-retests-1.3612623

 

[mastermind]

Dropping almost a second off your PR in less than a year normal?



Ignorance is thinking these athletes aren’t using peds

It happens when you age and get better coaching and hone down your technique.

Do you think Fred Kerley is doping? This is his progression in the 100:

Fred KERLEY | Profile | World Athletics

Fred KERLEY, United States - 60 Metres, 100 Metres, 200 Metres, 400 Metres, 4x100 Metres Relay, 4x400 Metres Relay

worldathletics.org

 

[Standing on business]

It happens when you age and get better coaching and hone down your technique.

Do you think Fred Kerley is doping? This is his progression in the 100:

Fred KERLEY | Profile | World Athletics

Fred KERLEY, United States - 60 Metres, 100 Metres, 200 Metres, 400 Metres, 4x100 Metres Relay, 4x400 Metres Relay

worldathletics.org

I have no idea how the point of this thread keeps getting lost

Every American in this thread has acknowledged their usage and we all seem to agree that everyone is on it. For some reason’s Jamaicans are the only one thinkin their team was clean.

 

[mastermind]

I have no idea how the point of this thread keeps getting lost

When did Fred Kerely acknowledge he is on PEDs?

I was pointing out the jump in his times.