It’s time to have an honest conversation about the Jamaican sprinters.

[Joe Sixpack]

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That’s an asterisk by the way


When discussing Flo Jo, it’s widely accepted that her world record times are because of steroids, when discussing Bolt they act is it’s because he was naturally that much faster.

Muv yuh bumbaclaat and guh suk yuh modda

*kisses teeth*

 

[Yayo Toure]

I think that I read something by Ben Johnson stating that Bailey had been popped. I will look for that article. Anyway Bolt's Jamaican teammate and training partner Yohan Blake got popped and a bunch of other Jamaican sprinters got popped in 2008:

Bolt's friend Blake named as one of five athletes to have failed a drugs test​

ATHLETICS: Bolt's friend Blake named as one of five to have failed a drugs test

As they gathered in their thousands for the London Grand Prix, a cloud passed across the sun. And the entire sport of track and field shivered in apprehension.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Here is an article of all the Jamaican and Russian athletes that had to be retested in 2008 after the Olympics: :https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/2.7171/track-field/jamaican-athlete-drug-retests-1.3612623

Bolt and Blake aren't friends, low key Blake hates him. And yes Blake failed a drug test before.

End of the day, every track star is taking supplements. WADA has a list of substances which are banned, which they update at different intervals and it's on the athlete and their team to stay sharp and modify regimens. Nesta Carter failed a drug test retrospectively (BS in itself) which lost JA a relay gold medal and gave one to Trinidad, who need something to cheer since they don't really have much.

End of the day these guys and their team are very very conscious about what they put in their bodies and are very aware that any test cannot be avoided or postponed (heard a rumor testers took a boat to test Bolt at the beach), so when an athlete smokes weed or misses a test for whatever reason, it's very unprofessional. The likelihood that Jamaica has some intricate doping scheme like Russia and the US is very low.

And don't listen to Victor Conte. How is a guy who got caught gonna tell you how people aren't getting caught now? Why y'all not talking about the athletes associated with Conte who still play today? Hmmmm

 

[Yayo Toure]

I have no idea how the point of this thread keeps getting lost

Because it's basically the point of the whole thread. If US runners never failed drug tests and the era or Marion Jones never had an asterisk * and if the entire track world never raised and eyebrow to Flo Jo, this thread doesn't get made.

Jamaica dominated track for around a decade and y'all can't stomach that, even after an Olympics where we didn't do well. The Bolt + SFP + ETH era made y'all mad.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

How do you explain all the Murikkkans getting caught doping yet Bolt never did?

You seriously think a dude from Jamaica has better access to designer BALCO juice than Murikkkans funded and trained by the US Olympic committee ?

Because Usada in the post millenium world >>>>>> Jadco up until recently

There was a reason the entire board resigned

https://www.reuters.com/article/sports/entire-jamaican-anti-doping-board-resigns-idUSBRE9AM01D/

https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/23/sport/jamaican-anti-doping-commissioners-resign/index.html

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Bolt and Blake aren't friends, low key Blake hates him. And yes Blake failed a drug test before.

End of the day, every track star is taking supplements. WADA has a list of substances which are banned, which they update at different intervals and it's on the athlete and their team to stay sharp and modify regimens. Nesta Carter failed a drug test retrospectively (BS in itself) which lost JA a relay gold medal and gave one to Trinidad, who need something to cheer since they don't really have much.

End of the day these guys and their team are very very conscious about what they put in their bodies and are very aware that any test cannot be avoided or postponed (heard a rumor testers took a boat to test Bolt at the beach), so when an athlete smokes weed or misses a test for whatever reason, it's very unprofessional. The likelihood that Jamaica has some intricate doping scheme like Russia and the US is very low.

And don't listen to Victor Conte. How is a guy who got caught gonna tell you how people aren't getting caught now? Why y'all not talking about the athletes associated with Conte who still play today? Hmmmm

People are definitely talking about it.......Tank has mentioned it several times about getting Snac up out of boxing.

The topic was track and field.

Because it's basically the point of the whole thread. If US runners never failed drug tests and the era or Marion Jones never had an asterisk * and if the entire track world never raised and eyebrow to Flo Jo, this thread doesn't get made.

Jamaica dominated track for around a decade and y'all can't stomach that, even after an Olympics where we didn't do well. The Bolt + SFP + ETH era made y'all mad.

I don't really have an agenda here. I loved what Jamaica did in track and field. I just have my personal beliefs that have to do with all of track and field.

 

[Standing on business]

Because it's basically the point of the whole thread. If US runners never failed drug tests and the era or Marion Jones never had an asterisk * and if the entire track world never raised and eyebrow to Flo Jo, this thread doesn't get made.

Jamaica dominated track for around a decade and y'all can't stomach that, even after an Olympics where we didn't do well. The Bolt + SFP + ETH era made y'all mad.

Mommy Rocket is my favorite sprinter, however I can acknowledge that she’s on Peds, just like every other sprinter who lines up at that level. Y’all nikkas just in denial.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Because Usada in the post millenium world >>>>>> Jadco up until recently

There was a reason the entire board resigned

https://www.reuters.com/article/sports/entire-jamaican-anti-doping-board-resigns-idUSBRE9AM01D/

https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/23/sport/jamaican-anti-doping-commissioners-resign/index.html

Miss me with this bullshyt…

Murikkkans, Russians and Chinese are the biggest doping cheats in all of sports…US pharma produces all the high grade undetectable designer shyt…

Everybody know this and it’s not debatable…

Furthermore every Murikkkan that Bolt has competed against in track was busted for doping at least once…

And I don’t give a fukk about JADCO…we talking about Bolt here…There is ZERO evidence to believe his record is tainted…Case and point you haven’t provided anything here…All you got is JADCO was on some bullshyt and because breh is Jamaican you tryna lump him in…

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence but that doesn’t negate the burden of proof for your claim…

 

[that guy]

The argument of “such and such athlete never failed a drug test” is a moot point ever since lance armstrong. Dude was tested over 500 times and everybody knew he was on steroids yet he never failed a drug test and nobody could prove it.

 

[FaTaL]

The argument of “such and such athlete never failed a drug test” is a moot point ever since lance armstrong. Dude was tested over 500 times and everybody knew he was on steroids yet he never failed a drug test and nobody could prove it.

Epo is much more difficult to prove, you literally have to catch them in the act

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

The argument of “such and such athlete never failed a drug test” is a moot point ever since lance armstrong. Dude was tested over 500 times and everybody knew he was on steroids yet he never failed a drug test and nobody could prove it.

This is true but you still have to prove it…You can’t just say dude was a cheat and his record is illegitimate…The burden of your claim/belief is on you…

And if we just going to throw all Jamaican track under the bus as dopers because of JADCO same treatment can be used for Murikkkan track…The biggest dopers in sports are Murikkkans…

Case in point what nation did Lance Armstrong bike for? What agency tested him and said he was clean? USADA…

 

[that guy]

Epo is much more difficult to prove, you literally have to catch them in the act

All of the designer steroids are difficult to prove.

 

[FaTaL]

All of the designer steroids are difficult to prove.

I believe in the vada testing, if they don’t get you now they’ll get you later . Even the balco steroid wasn’t new, it was a old steroid that was long forgotten

 

[DJSmooth]

A lot of your favorite athletes are on some sort of PED's in some way shape or form.

Why wouldn't you be when you got millions of dollars on the line?

 

[mastermind]

Because Usada in the post millenium world >>>>>> Jadco up until recently

There was a reason the entire board resigned

https://www.reuters.com/article/sports/entire-jamaican-anti-doping-board-resigns-idUSBRE9AM01D/

https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/23/sport/jamaican-anti-doping-commissioners-resign/index.html

The US Anti Doping Agency has a program where athletes that fail drug tests can still compete if they snitch

https://www.reuters.com/sports/athletes-undercover-global-us-anti-doping-agencies-clash-over-tactics-2024-08-07/ "WADA is now aware of at least three cases where athletes who had committed serious anti-doping rule violations were allowed to continue to compete for years while they acted as...

www.thecoli.com

 

[klutch2381]

People are legit stupid. Tim Montgomery was juiced to the fukking gills taking undetectable anabolic roids (aka the clear) and set the world record at 9.78. You had two dudes run essentially that time in these goddamn Olympics and you think they did it clean?

They cycled on and off designer peds like ALL of the sprinters do.

I don’t think some of you understand that bio mechanically there is a limit to how fast humans can sprint. There is a limit how fast you can run individually naturally no matter how fast you are, and to break that threshold you need “help.”

At the 1924 Olympic Games, the winning time for the men’s 100m dash was 10.6. A HUNDRED fukkING YEARS of innovation, training methods, nutrition, tracks designed to make you faster, shoes designed to make you faster, etc. And the winning time this year in the men’s 100m is LESS than 1 second from 1924 (0.81).

We’ve reached the human limit in terms of natural speed. In order to run sub 10 seconds 100s regularly, you need help. In order to beat the dudes who are also getting help, you need help.

All of them juice. You basically have to. You also
have to be pretty lazy/stupid to get caught. Bolt is still the greatest sprinter ever, but some of you are living in some kinda lala land.