Jay Z fell off more than Eminem

[Danktoker94]

Kill this thread they both are highly overrated As fukk Eminem is for white kids who want to have some edge to them and jay is for dudes who measure success with talent

 

[Art Barr]

Kill this thread they both are highly overrated As fukk Eminem is for white kids who want to have some edge to them and jay is for dudes who measure success with talent

Jay is not more talented than Eminem.
Eminem is better than jay, period.
Renegade exists and Eminem is still a better emcee than jay.

Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

nikka. Again. We talking about music. Not technical skills. This ain't slam poetry

Rap nice all you want with trash music and guess what? Nobody will PLAY it cause they don't like the music. The songs. The album.

So again. Yes em can out rap nikkas. But his MUSIC fell off from what it was. His music was on 1000000000 on infinite, sslp, mmlp... Went a little down for em show.


But when he got off them drugs. It became straight silly white boy music and beats. shyt wasn't getting no play with the same nikkas you idolize. Same rappers you claim know the culture and are technically great, weren't putting none of those trash albums on any lists.


shyt I bet you if em put his albums in order, his latest joints wouldn't grace top 3

This response is welled in bullshyt and has nuffin to do with discussion of quality of record or a skill comparison between jay and Eminem.

You don't know skills like that and that is why you replied back with this anger based response.
Welled in your opinion and not based on actual skill in emcee'n.
The thread is about skills and jay has fallen off and Eminem has never falls off.
Guys may not like his dark carnivale horrorcore and lead movie soundtrack brand of music.
Yet, and still Eminem is still better than jay and was always better than jay.

We can go about this via timeline, skills, and intangibles and you would lose choosing jay.

Now do you wanna play or do you just want this to be a situation.
Where you stfu and go listen to jay.
While, staying out of further discussion about shyt you don't know anything about.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

nikkaz hating on Eminem cause they weak ass probably rhyme and don't really wanna apply themselves.
Plus are so delusional they think they are going to sell enough crack to get distribution from freeze record via priority in 2o16.

When it ain't happening and you know you can't rhyme well.
Plus, think you supposed to have an easy ride to some draw in rap. when it is a fukkin fallacy and a false narrative you have fooled yourself with.

You not fooling the public with your wack rhyme skills and unless you sell your soul you not getting on.
Nor will you be championed in a grassroots manner.

You know this is true so why keep lying to yourself.
You nikkaz don't post right and definitely not nice on the MIC to get anywhere and you and I know.
so, so stop trying to create a bullshyt argument.
So it can aid yo lack of skill having ass.


nikkaz ain't never ripped not one mic and never tore it down in a venue.
Give it up, you scared of Eminem and the reality is he would serve yo goof ass, period.

That is to anyone who has issue with Eminem.
The reality is yo crank ass know you would get served.
so stop making fukk'n excuses cause you not skilled, not cultural and not willing to even study this shyt to get skilled.

Stop fooling yourselves,......


Art Barr

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

This response is welled in bullshyt and has nuffin to do with discussion of quality of record or a skill comparison between jay and Eminem.

You don't know skills like that and that is why you replied back with this anger based response.
Welled in your opinion and not based on actual skill in emcee'n.
The thread is about skills and jay has fallen off and Eminem has never falls off.
Guys may not like his dark carnivale horrorcore and lead movie soundtrack brand of music.
Yet, and still Eminem is still better than jay and was always better than jay.

We can go about this via timeline, skills, and intangibles and you would lose choosing jay.

Now do you wanna play or do you just want this to be a situation.
Where you stfu and go listen to jay.
While, staying out of further discussion about shyt you don't know anything about.


Art Barr

Let me get this straight. I don't know skills. But I said em has better skills than 99% of rappers

But you know skills and said the same thing



Now skip skills and talk music. Who makes better music. Song for song, who has better MUSIC? This is rap music. Hip hop music. Not rap battles and hip hop technical school

 

[Edub]

Jay's problem is he was always a trend hopper but he did it so effortlessly it never hurt him.. until now

Em been the same since day 1, hate him or love him, he never really switched up too much

Nikkas need to stop hopping on trends (that are sure to disappear) and perfect their true craft so that it remains timeless. Em's problem is even though he never switched up his content has been weak as fukk all along. His spit game is technically advanced, no doubt....but what he's saying is ... so both have trash aspects to their current decisions musically

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

Nikkas need to stop hopping on trends (that are sure to disappear) and perfect their true craft so that it remains timeless. Em's problem is even though he never switched up his content has been weak as fukk all along. His spit game is technically advanced, no doubt....but what he's saying is ... so both have trash aspects to their current decisions musically

Yep and it's only so long till the shock wears off.

 

[Love Sosa]

Let me get this straight. I don't know skills. But I said em has better skills than 99% of rappers

But you know skills and said the same thing



Now skip skills and talk music. Who makes better music. Song for song, who has better MUSIC? This is rap music. Hip hop music. Not rap battles and hip hop technical school

After 2007? Eminem. Jay has been blessed with some of the greatest beats and production ever, yet ruins it as soon as he starts rapping. Song ruined. Eminem has had some of the worst beats ever and set them joints ablaze. And frankly, em's newer music is more relatable than Jay's if we wanna take it there. Not afraid is a very relatable song about overcoming an addiction or struggle. Deja vu is an eerie tale of being in the middle of drug addiction. You're never over is a tribute to a fallen homie. Going thru changes is being in the middle of depression and dealing with it. All real life issues. All his other bullshyt is just entertainment, only on the Coli do people try and "relate" and take it seriously. What's relatable about Picasso baby and tom ford

 

[Art Barr]

Let me get this straight. I don't know skills. But I said em has better skills than 99% of rappers

But you know skills and said the same thing



Now skip skills and talk music. Who makes better music. Song for song, who has better MUSIC? This is rap music. Hip hop music. Not rap battles and hip hop technical school

You sound stoopid trying to dismiss emcee'n.

You don't know this shyt and it is your preference.
Eminem is not marketed to you,....
If you don't listen to dark carnival type horrorcore then fine.
You may listen to horrorcore that is bone based.
As horrorcore encompasses social commentary, to street violence to slash and gore.
You just don't listen to that brand of horrorcore.
Still that does not discredit Eminem and his brand of music as a draw.
When he still draw higher than the while entire game in bds to sales , still. Plus endorsements and profit generation as well.
You nikkaz with ya mental midget bullshyt.
Which is all because you don't wanna put the time skillwise and are not committed to the culture.
Yet think this pop ideal of flodge'n in the rap music genre translates culturally to what hiphop is about.
Just stop, breh....
You sound crazy with this bullshyt false narrative.

nikkaz complaining about music.
like it some glorious killer artist out there in rap just churning out a product that pleases everyone when it is not.

Stop flodge'n nikka,...you can not discredit Eminem and real talk.
If a rapper tries he gets served.
You know this so stop trying to move the goal posts from the real.
nikkaz be sounding like scary bytches complaining about Eminem because they know they would get served and it is that simple.

Art Barr

 

[Mike Otherz]

This nikka art Barr hate for jay is on the same level as that karceno cat. Ain they both from Chicago?

I will say this I agree dynasty intro is jays peak. That peak lasted long after that but that is maybe the definitive jay. But that was lowkey emo as well so?

 

[Art Barr]

After 2007? Eminem. Jay has been blessed with some of the greatest beats and production ever, yet ruins it as soon as he starts rapping. Song ruined. Eminem has had some of the worst beats ever and set them joints ablaze. And frankly, em's newer music is more relatable than Jay's if we wanna take it there. Not afraid is a very relatable song about overcoming an addiction or struggle. Deja vu is an eerie tale of being in the middle of drug addiction. You're never over is a tribute to a fallen homie. Going thru changes is being in the middle of depression and dealing with it. All real life issues. All his other bullshyt is just entertainment, only on the Coli do people try and "relate" and take it seriously. What's relatable about Picasso baby and tom ford

nikkaz keep trying to fske this false narrative and don't even know hip hop, skills or eminem's music.
Let alone rap music sell enough to even comment.

Then try to deflect on a bullshyt argument predicated and based around race.
when just because you black you still not gon just randomly be better than eminem.
When just because you are black that does not mean you at e bboy. You are not a part of hiphop more than likely and just a goofball pop music fan.
who dabbles in rap and knows nuffin about hip hop to comment.


Art Barr

 

[Mike Otherz]

nikkaz keep trying to fske this false narrative and don't even know hip hop, skills or eminem's music.
Let alone rap music sell enough to even comment.

Then try to deflect on a bullshyt argument predicated and based around race.
when just because you black you still not gon just randomly be better than eminem.
When just because you are black that does not mean you at e bboy. You are not a part of hiphop more than likely and just a goofball pop music fan.
who dabbles in rap and knows nuffin about hip hop to comment.


Art Barr

Art "8 mile" Barr.

 

[Love Sosa]

You sound stoopid trying to dismiss emcee'n.

You don't know this shyt and it is your preference.
Eminem is not marketed to you,....
If you don't listen to dark carnival type horrorcore then fine.
You may listen to horrorcore that is bone based.
As horrorcore encompasses social commentary, to street violence to slash and gore.
You just don't listen to that brand of horrorcore.
Still that does not discredit Eminem and his brand of music as a draw.
When he still draw higher than the while entire game in bds to sales , still. Plus endorsements and profit generation as well.
You nikkaz with ya mental midget bullshyt.
Which is all because you don't wanna put the time skillwise and are not committed to the culture.
Yet think this pop ideal of flodge'n in the rap music genre translates culturally to what hiphop is about.
Just stop, breh....
You sound crazy with this bullshyt false narrative.

nikkaz complaining about music.
like it some glorious killer artist out there in rap just churning out a product that pleases everyone when it is not.

Stop flodge'n nikka,...you can not discredit Eminem and real talk.
If a rapper tries he gets served.
You know this so stop trying to move the goal posts from the real.
nikkaz be sounding like scary bytches complaining about Eminem because they know they would get served and it is that simple.

Art Barr

My thing is what happened to the Internet rap community? People on the Internet when I started using it to browse forums used to only care about lyrics. I come here and it's some "I can't get jiggy to this shyt" bullshyt, dismissing lyrics and flow

 

[Art Barr]

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This nikka art Barr hate for jay is on the same level as that karceno cat. Ain they both from Chicago?

I will say this I agree dynasty intro is jays peak. That peak lasted long after that but that is maybe the definitive jay. But that was lowkey emo as well so?

nikkaz be killing me when it comes time to talk about the culture.
They bring up hate.
When we talembout a culture thief defying a culture.
ruining the ability of the last business of the pillar of the culture to draw.
Nobody is hating if someone is violating a culture.
I am speaking on someone who is a culture thief violating the culture. That is not hate.

Get the fukk on with that bullshyt puff shyt from twenty years ago.
That ushered in exactly why we are where we are today and jay was also there flopping as well.
trying to thieve from the culture on volume one.

Like how dare you try to make it like I hate on that culture thief.
I can expose nikkaz violating my culture. That is not hating.


The shyt nikkaz pull erroneously trying to protect this culture thief, jayz is just like white people and their privilege.
When they try to pull a reverse racism ploy.
when black people complain about injustice.
Shame on you for using that easily debunked for the past twenty years sellout argument in epic fail fashion.


Art Barr

 

[scarlxrd]

Eminem fell off after Infinite.