JAY-Z NEVER RAN THE RAP GAME - agree or disagree?

[Benefited]

With that logic no one ever ran rap music because people all have different taste

No,because lifelong rap fans can feel the collective pulse of rap fans everywhere. You can feel the climate,as there is a groundswelling if you are in tune.

Nobody thought Nelly was running the game

And 50 had already crossed over,and as I said his album dropped early 2005. We anticipated it,heard it,and realized his time was just about up. Jeezy and T.I had the whole remainder of that year,as well as Kanye as someone mentioned. I still give it to Jeezy and T.I,depending on who catered to you more. But it wasn't 50 in 2005.

Game actually gave him a second wind,but quickly turned the tide by shytting on 50 with the succesful G-Unot campaign.

 

[Houston911]

One of the dumbest things I've ever heard

 

[BO BARON]

Ross had 2010 fukk what you nikkas say

 

[666 ReVeNGe 666]

Gotta throw a wrench in there

WTT had the highest grossing rap tour of all time up to that point. Which do you hold on a higher pedestal, record sales or a bigger tour?

I get that but Jay Z always teams with other superstars to have bigger tours.

Plus, i saw jay z up at penn state and cacs were throwing up diamonds and didnt know the words to any songs lol

Same thing when i saw future and amigos

Wayne had the record prior to that and he didn't have big names.

I think we need to go strictly based off music, sales, charts and dominance.

 

[Benefited]

No, 50 had his game, movie and the soundtrack coming out at the end of 05

Hustlers ambition and window shopper was also hot records

His fans were mostly white people who didn't realize black people had moved on by then

We wont forget how wack and corny those singles were coming off the sophmore album he dropped. 50 was cold out here among rap fans,and had one last hoorah with Window Shopper,and by that point so many people hated him it still wasn't unanimous. It was about a 50/50 split,with 50% complaining about how he came at Ja for crooning,now he won't stop crooning That record wasn't as beloved at the time I think you may be attempting to rewrite it was,but a hit yes. But among hiphop fans it was iffy.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

DJ akademiks is just promoting a random thot

 

[JustCKing]

Jeezy dropped Trap or Die and 101 in 2005. That nikka had the streets and clubs on lock like only handful of rappers have ever had it.

No one was fukking with those Massacre songs like that. stop it

Kendrick album is bigger but Migos album was huge too and Migos has huge singles as well they also are still killing shyt and they have songs still in regular rotation unlike Kendrick who singles are already played

Trap or Die dropped in the fourth quarter of '04.

Those songs from The Massacre were bumped heavily and I see you aren't really trying to refute the other songs.

Kendrick's album and singles are bigger than Migos's.

 

[Jasonmask]

Hov my fave rapper but op is high key right. I would argue for his black album period he ran the rap game, but it was forced with retiring. And he’s the one who started this culture of proclaiming to be the best rapper alive on wax like that

 

[JustCKing]

People were getting cold on 50 by then,he was becoming raps villian by that point. Jeezy on the other hand had the streets locked

You barely mentioned P in 97 which is fair because he gained traction at the end of 97,but then had the audacity to not mention him at all for 1998. When he was bigger than Biggie and Puff were in 97 pre Biggies death.

People getting cold on 50 changes nothing when you are one of the biggest artists in the world. Decline is inevitable when you are where 50 was at in '03. Still '05 50 Cent was only rivaled by Kanye. When people are out here trying to make a case for Jeezy it's for the following reasons:

1) Jeezy fans or bandwagon fans who weren't fans when he first dropped trying to compensate by making him bigger than he was

2) 50 is now a thing of the past, so it is safe to downplay or entiry discredit his standings even when he was on top

3) Typical Coli fashion to rewrite history based on personal bias ir to make an underdog bigger than they actually were

How did I barely mention P? Before Biggie died, P's biggest project was TRU's TRU 2 Da Game. He was not bigger than Puff or Big at that point. And you can't use Biggie's death as an excuse when P was out here capitalizing off Pac's death.

I didn't mention P in '98 because he wasn't bigger than any of the other artists I mentioned for that year.

 

[Benefited]

People getting cold on 50 changes nothing when you are one of the biggest artists in the world. Decline is inevitable when you are where 50 was at in '03. Still '05 50 Cent was only rivaled by Kanye. When people are out here trying to make a case for Jeezy it's for the following reasons:

1) Jeezy fans or bandwagon fans who weren't fans when he first dropped trying to compensate by making him bigger than he was

2) 50 is now a thing of the past, so it is safe to downplay or entiry discredit his standings even when he was on top

3) Typical Coli fashion to rewrite history based on personal bias ir to make an underdog bigger than they actually were

How did I barely mention P? Before Biggie died, P's biggest project was TRU's TRU 2 Da Game. He was not bigger than Puff or Big at that point. And you can't use Biggie's death as an excuse when P was out here capitalizing off Pac's death.

I didn't mention P in '98 because he wasn't bigger than any of the other artists I mentioned for that year.

1) Why would anybody do that in 2017?Especially when Jeezy isn't exactly a thing of the present himself?

You mentioned P as a footnote of 97,instead of mentioning him in 98 where he also had movies,clothing line,had nikkas wearing the clothes and the No Limit pendents? P put on a whole label of stars from out of nowhere,on his back. Kicked the doors down for Cash Money which had a run the following year,not to mention the entire south in general.

I wasn't saying P was bigger than Biggie in 97,I'm saying P was Bigger than Biggie was in 97 before Biggie died,yet doesn't get a mention for 98. And you can't seriously be saying P benefited from Pacs death like Biggie and Puff benefited from Biggies death. If you really believe thats a disqualification,and you are holding that against P,than DMX shouldn't be on the list either.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

I’d give 2010-2011 to Ye
Kendrick 2012-2013
Future 2015-2016


Eminem being on Top I can’t really speak on cause of my age but I doubt he was Actually on Top to black people

Stop,Kendrick only year was the Damn era. Drake was killing him back then

 

[Unknown Poster]

@BrothaZay said the same exact shyt....in a thread he made. almost as if the chick in the OP ripped his thread off verbatim.

Jay never ran rap in any year he was out. NEVER.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

There are very very rare occurrences where one rapper reined Supreme during an entire year. Nas came close in 94 but you gotta give BIG his credit and Jay came VERY close in 01 but we all know what happened on his birthday of that year...

This is how I’d rank it

94- Nas/Big
95- Pac/Bone Thugz
96- Nas/Pac/Fugees
97-BIG/Master P & No Limit/WuTang
98- Jay-Z/DMX
99- Nas/Jay/DMX/Em
00-Nelly/Ja/Outkast/Em
01- Jay/Ja
02-Nas/Jay/Em/Nelly
03- 50 Cent/Jay/Outkast
04-Kanye/T.I./Luda
05- Kanye/50/Jeezy/Wayne
06- T. I./Game/Jay
07-Kanye/Jay/Lupe
08- Wayne (T.I./Nas/and Ye had dope years but I’d be remiss if I didn’t give it to Wayne for thoroughly running the game in 08, regardless of personal preference)
09-Jay ( you could make a case for Ross too)
10-Kanye/Drake/Em
11-Drake/ Jay & Kanye as The Throne
12-Nas/Kendrick/Ross
13-Drake/Kanye
14-Nicki Minaj/Schoolboy Q/J.Cole
15-Kendrick/Drake/Future
16-Kanye/Chance/Drake
17- Kendrick Lamar (I won’t argue anyone who puts Jay here as well)

Nas never ran anything,stop. A bunch of nikkas were ahead of him in 1994,btw.
Warren g,coolio, brat, outkast, biggie,bone etc .....nas flopped

 

[BrothaZay]

@BrothaZay said the same exact shyt....in a thread he made. almost as if the chick in the OP ripped his thread off verbatim.

Jay never ran rap in any year he was out. NEVER.

nikkas always stealing from us big homie

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Take a thots opinion seriously and I'm even a big Jay stan.