Jed counts the M's, while the team holds the L's: Official 49ers 2016 Season Thread

[FaTaL]

Vance and Kilgore on ir now

Vances deal is way smaller then first reported, basically 3 years 19 mil

 

[Fade Runner 2049]

why the hell we need romo ? pass on that brittle old ass

Didnt say need . I'd rather they sign Romo then roll with a qb that Baalke drafts, that's my mindset until he's fired at least. 49ers aren't taking a qb in the 1st, so if they do draft one he likely won't be a starter day one caliber anyway. For the very right price Romo would be worth the risk

 

[dza]

Didnt say need . I'd rather they sign Romo then roll with a qb that Baalke drafts, that's my mindset until he's fired at least. 49ers aren't taking a qb in the 1st, so if they do draft one he likely won't be a starter day one caliber anyway. For the very right price Romo would be worth the risk

baalkes gone at the end of the season

 

[yseJ]

Didnt say need . I'd rather they sign Romo then roll with a qb that Baalke drafts, that's my mindset until he's fired at least. 49ers aren't taking a qb in the 1st, so if they do draft one he likely won't be a starter day one caliber anyway. For the very right price Romo would be worth the risk

lol why ?
team is rebuilding, bringing in a qb whos retiring in a year or two and has injury problems does absolutely zero. Id rather draft a young qb in later rounds.

itd be the same situation as mcnabb on the skins. and mcnabb wasnt as injury prone as romo, and skins werent as bad as us

 

[Fade Runner 2049]

?
team is rebuilding, bringing in a qb whos retiring in a year or two and has injury problems does absolutely zero. Id rather draft a young qb in later rounds.

itd be the same situation as mcnabb on the skins. and mcnabb wasnt as injury prone as romo, and skins werent as bad as us

Because they gonna have more than 1 qb on the roster regardless of who or what round they draft a qb so if he comes cheap then why not...I don't know what the market will be for Romo, if it's too much then fukk it. But if you draft a qb in the later rounds it wouldn't hurt to have vet he can learn behind, even if he plays half the season at which point a rookie can come on. I was just throwing shyt at the wall anyway, he's gonna go to a team in a better situation to win than the 49ers.

 

[yseJ]

Because they gonna have more than 1 qb on the roster regardless of who or what round they draft a qb so if he comes cheap then why not...I don't know what the market will be for Romo, if it's too much then fukk it. But if you draft a qb in the later rounds it wouldn't hurt to have vet he can learn behind, even if he plays half the season at which point a rookie can come on. I was just throwing shyt at the wall anyway, he's gonna go to a team in a better situation to win than the 49ers.

Im against us signing any vets with one or two years left, period. especially a qb. they will contribute nothing to the team. 'learning behind' a qb is a tired cliche.

there is zero point in signing an aging vet whos retiring soon. if that was the case we couldve kept boldin or something. those guys go to contending teams trying to win a ring or at least get to offs

 

[Fade Runner 2049]

Im against us signing any vets with one or two years left, period. especially a qb. they will contribute nothing to the team. 'learning behind' a qb is a tired cliche.

It is if you're qb was drafted in the 1st or second round. Those guys usually start day 1 and learn on the ropes . Wouldn't be a bad idea for a rebuilding team or complete trash team with a qb drafted in later rounds to sit behind a vet. 9ers will not be finding next years Dak


The 49ers have what like $90 million
Dollars in cap that they are being forced to spend because they have refused to sign weapons in free agency. I'm not gonna get mad if
they through a few million at Romo.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Im against us signing any vets with one or two years left, period. especially a qb. they will contribute nothing to the team. 'learning behind' a qb is a tired cliche.

there is zero point in signing an aging vet whos retiring soon. if that was the case we couldve kept boldin or something. those guys go to contending teams trying to win a ring or at least get to offs

i don't, i think it's the reason churn is so high at the qb position these past 10 years. everyone aint gonna make it through the learning curve of being a day 1 starter, while they could possibly be serviceable if they were eased in over 1-3 seasons.

 

[yseJ]

It is if you're qb was drafted in the 1st or second round. Those guys usually start day 1 and learn on the ropes . Wouldn't be a bad idea for a rebuilding team or complete trash team with a qb drafted in later rounds to sit behind a vet. 9ers will not be finding next years Dak


The 49ers have what like $90 million
Dollars in cap that they are being forced to spend because they have refused to sign weapons in free agency. I'm not gonna get mad if
they through a few million at Romo.

who said were drafting a qb in 1st or second ? Im against that as well

this aint about money, really. its about the future. if old vets can teach youngins why we aint keep boldin ?

 

[yseJ]

i don't, i think it's the reason churn is so high at the qb position these past 10 years. everyone aint gonna make it through the learning curve of being a day 1 starter, while they could possibly be serviceable if they were eased in over 1-3 seasons.

yeah favre helped out rodgers a lot
mcnabb was a great pickup for skins right ?

where are the recent history examples an old yeller stage qb being picked up helping a young qb ?

youre just prolonging the rebuild with committing to a vet who has 1 or two years left. like jets with favre. like skins and mcnabb. and so on.

 

[yseJ]

and I SWEAR if anyone on here thinks Dak has been doing good because of romo

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

yeah favre helped out rodgers a lot
mcnabb was a great pickup for skins right ?

where are the recent history examples an old yeller stage qb being picked up helping a young qb ?

youre just prolonging the rebuild with committing to a vet who has 1 or two years left. like jets with favre. like skins and mcnabb. and so on.

lol, it's not about handholding, it's about having time to develop behind them. we have no clue if rodgers would be the rodgers he is if he were thrown on the field day 1

you're not prolonging a rebuild if you put the other pieces in place so your qb can have a chance at success when they start - an o line, a defense that doesn't require them to be a savior, some weapons to throw to, etc. no point in throwing a sparkly new qb on the field if they're going to get murdered every down like david carr was. a rebuild doesn't mean you're looking for one piece, so you can either start with a qb and nothing around him or you can build the other pieces let your qb sit a year or two or draft a qb when you're close.

there is no one tried and true way to get to a competent qb - some of it is chance (brady in the 6th), some talent (carr), some circumstances of the way the team is built (dak)

 

[yseJ]

lol, it's not about handholding, it's about having time to develop behind them. we have no clue if rodgers would be the rodgers he is if he were thrown on the field day 1

you're not prolonging a rebuild if you put the other pieces in place so your qb can have a chance at success when they start - an o line, a defense that doesn't require them to be a savior, some weapons to throw to, etc. no point in throwing a sparkly new qb on the field if they're going to get murdered every down like david carr was. a rebuild doesn't mean you're looking for one piece, so you can either start with a qb and nothing around him or you can build the other pieces let your qb sit a year or two or draft a qb when you're close.

there is no one tried and true way to get to a competent qb - some of it is chance (brady in the 6th), some talent (carr), some circumstances of the way the team is built (dak)

ok so if youre looking for a placeholder, why romo ? hes getting hurt extremely soon, and that young qb will be thrown to the wolves ASAP.

and yes, there is a tried and true way - build a good team around, then draft a qb. that path does put placeholder qb into driving seat. but not qbs that are one injury away from a wheelchair or retirement.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Im against us signing any vets with one or two years left, period. especially a qb. they will contribute nothing to the team. 'learning behind' a qb is a tired cliche.

there is zero point in signing an aging vet whos retiring soon. if that was the case we couldve kept boldin or something. those guys go to contending teams trying to win a ring or at least get to offs

Can't agree more

I'd rather overpay a young FA then give any dough to a guy in his twilight years

This is a long term project not a quick fix

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

ok so if youre looking for a placeholder, why romo ? hes getting hurt extremely soon, and that young qb will be thrown to the wolves ASAP.

and yes, there is a tried and true way - build a good team around, then draft a qb. that path does put placeholder qb into driving seat. but not qbs that are one injury away from a wheelchair or retirement.

i didn't argue one way or another for romo, just disagreed with the premise of sitting a season or two being outdated, especially since the day 1 starter motif hasn't been a smashing success either