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Full disclosure yes this is ChatGPT.

ChatGPT Users Are Developing Bizarre Delusions

To be fair the article is referring to people developing pseudospiritual delusions based on overuse of A.I., but the point is that ChatGPT is subject to confirmation bias based on the input of its user(s).

In other words, if ChatGPT can determine that you don't believe Jesus is the Messiah, then it's gonna serve you answers that may simply affirm your existing worldview.
 
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I don't believe in any of the over 4k religions on this planet, but I also understand that there are those who do believe in them. You are not going to get people to lay aside their religious belief with logic, because logic plays no part in religion. So, really the best you can do is seek to maintain religious freedom, including the freedom to be free from any religion. Leave them to their belief systems, because some quite frankly need it to operate in this world of uncertainty.

While I agree that religion is used to control, I also see that it is used to bring together too. To give people something to believe in, that gives them something to align with each other over. Some of us do not need that, but many of us do. So, the best thing to do is to let them be, if they let you be.
 

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It’s interesting you say that. My family’s minhag is that
  1. a Sefer Tοrah may be placed on top of a printed T'na"ch, Hummash, Siddur or Mahzοr but not vice versa;
  2. a printed T'na"ch may be placed on top of a Hummash, Siddur or Mahzοr but not vice versa; and
  3. a Hummash may be placed on top of a Siddur or Mahzor but not vice versa.
The principle is that a book or object of ‘lesser’ ḳ'dushshah (holiness) should never be placed on top of one of ‘greater’ ḳ'dushshah. Customs vary with regard to scrolls of the eight N'vi´im and eleven K'tuvim; some say that they share the same degree of ḳ'dushshah, but most authorities maintain that a Tοrah scroll has the greatest ḳ'dushshah of all and nothing should ever be placed on top of it. There are also varying minhagim concerning t'fillin, m'zuzοt, and volumes of the Bavli and Y'rushalmi and other Jewish texts.
I told @Marks that I was playing an old game "Shining in the Darkness" and the item "Wisdom Seed" when used opens a scroll showing your current location in the labyrinth...i have beaten it in English and Portuguese (um golpe incrivel!) currently working on Nippon :ufdup:
lol.. definitely not. Besides,
  • שָׁ־ sha- in the verb שָׁדוּד shadud (with וּ functioning as the vowel u) is part of the actual conjugation of root שׁדד, whereas
  • שֶׁ־ she- prepended to דָּוִד david (here, וִ is a pure consonant) would be the preposition letter שֶׁ־ and not part of the root דוד
so the Vav can be used as a vowel and a consonant? so my interpretation of 1 Samuel 17:43 is even more accurate

if Goliath is defeated with a video game, does he truly die? is his head the controller or the console?
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this is is how i flipped psalm 2:7 on him
MMS be saying some wild stuff in these threads
whose stuff is more thought provoking me or ChatGPT though
 

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I told @Marks that I was playing an old game "Shining in the Darkness" and the item "Wisdom Seed" when used opens a scroll showing your current location in the labyrinth...i have beaten it in English and Portuguese (um golpe incrivel!) currently working on Nippon :ufdup:

so the Vav can be used as a vowel and a consonant? so my interpretation of 1 Samuel 17:43 is even more accurate

if Goliath is defeated with a video game, does he truly die? is his head the controller or the console?
gL1OV8.gif

this is is how i flipped psalm 2:7 on him

whose stuff is more thought provoking me or ChatGPT though
:yes: And when it functions as a pure consonant (מִצְוֺתָיו mitzvotav, מִצְוָה mitzvah), the ו vav is often ‘doubled’ if written without niḳḳud (מצווה ,מצוותיו).

But it depends on the diacritic used:

  • sh'va - וְ v' - consonant (the conjunction ‘and’, for example in B'reshіt 1:2 we find וְהָאָרֶץ v'ha´aretz, וְחשֶׁךְ v'hoshech, וְרוּחַ v'ruah)
  • patah - וַ va - consonant (the conjunction ‘and’ as an ‘inverting vav’, for example in B'reshіt 1:3 the future tense יֹאמַר yomar becomes past tense וַיֹּאמֶר vayyomer)
  • ḳamatz - וָ va - consonant (when the conjunction ‘and’ is an ‘inverting vav’ before an א alef, as in B'reshіt 3:12-13, the future אֹכַל ochal becomes past וָאֹכֵל va´ochel)
  • shuruḳ - וּ u - vowel (the conjunction ‘and’ preceding the labials ב bet, פ pe, מ mem, ו vav, or any letter voweled with sh'va na`: וּבְ־ uv-, וּפְ־ uf-, וּמְ־ um-, וּוַ־ uva-)
  • holam malé - וֹ o - vowel (*the holam here prints further to the right: שָׁלוֹם shalom, לְהִתְרָאוֹת l'hitra´ot)
  • holam hasér - וֺ vo - consonant (*the holam here prints further to the left: עֵדְוֺתָיו `edvotav, עָוֺן `avon)
  • hiriḳ - וִ vi - consonant (when the conjunction ‘and’ precedes a sh'va-marked י yod, as in יְ, the sh'va is dropped: יְרוּשָׁלַיִם y'rushalayim, וִירוּשָלַיִם virushalayim)
This is a very simplified breakdown of the grammatical rules governing the ו vav, which are quite technical and have a number of exceptions not shown here.
 
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ChatGPT Users Are Developing Bizarre Delusions

To be fair the article is referring to people developing pseudospiritual delusions based on overuse of A.I., but the point is that ChatGPT is subject to confirmation bias based on the input of its user(s).

In other words, if ChatGPT can determine that you don't believe Jesus is the Messiah, then it's gonna serve you answers that may simply affirm your existing worldview.

This I took in consideration, why I make sure to include scripture with every point that I made. If it’s literally in the Bible describing what the messiah will be, verse by verse, and it’s simply not adding up to what is told in the NT, then people are just dodging what is carried forth.

This is a specific tactic you’re using I forgot what it’s called but you attack everything but the argument. It gets by with most but I’ve seen it happen so much that I make it a point to call it out.

I made sure I mentioned I used chat to form the OP. But can you address the argument?
 

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This I took in consideration, why I make sure to include scripture with every point that I made. If it’s literally in the Bible describing what the messiah will be, verse by verse, and it’s simply not adding up to what is told in the NT, then people are just dodging what is carried forth.

This is a specific tactic you’re using I forgot what it’s called but you attack everything but the argument. It gets by with most but I’ve seen it happen so much that I make it a point to call it out.

I made sure I mentioned I used chat to form the OP. But can you address the argument?
why should someone address what you chose not to address with your own typed words? its insulting
 
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why should someone address what you chose not to address with your own typed words? its insulting

Because you’re not going to where all these scrolls are held, learning Hebrew, going to the places themselves and getting any of your information yourself right from the source as does 99.9999 percent of everyone else.

You’re googling things. You’re posting YouTube videos. So how are you any different? We’re getting information, then presenting an argument, with the information we’ve found. What the method is the issue? What about the argument, again I have to pull yall back on task.

Because if I didn’t reveal that I used Chat for the original argument, what would you have said then? You’re being ridiculous but deep down I think you know that.
 

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Because you’re not going to where all these scrolls are held, learning Hebrew, going to the places themselves and getting any of your information yourself right from the source as does 99.9999 percent of everyone else.

You’re googling things. You’re posting YouTube videos. So how are you any different? We’re getting information, then presenting an argument, with the information we’ve found. What the method is the issue? What about the argument, again I have to pull yall back on task.

Because if I didn’t reveal that I used Chat for the original argument, what would you have said then? You’re being ridiculous but deep down I think you know that.
nah its lazy and it shows with how you present yourself

there is plagiarizing another person and then there is plagiarizing a bot

one is significantly worse, especially considering spiritual matters
 
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nah its lazy and it shows with how you present yourself

there is plagiarizing another person and then there is plagiarizing a bot

one is significantly worse, especially considering spiritual matters

Plagiarizing a bot that I quoted using in the original post. Stop it. Before you get a hot 5 neg on yo booty. :mjlol:

Come back with an argument before I slap a hot five on you keep playing with me.
 

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it's not moving the goal post. it has everything to do with scripture interpretation. and you're still in error comparing christ to someone who wanted to amass power for himself. your whole grasp of the fundamentals is faulty.

christ not lining up with what's described in the OT is an assertion you can't back up because you have yet to explain why the jews, whose position you are taking, had two different types of messiahs. and both you and the jews failed to explain how they are reconciled. the only thing that has been asserted is "christ is not it" which is insufficient because you're selectively painting christ against one depiction of the messiah and not both. jews have a motive for doing it of course for whatever reason you're afraid to state.

 
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Considering it's all fiction, yeah that sounds about right :bryan:
there is a saying that fiction is the truth and non-fiction is questionable

well im gonna go ahead and take it a step further

literotica is where the strange happenings are and everything else is probably a false lense


@Koichos @Marks consider that line with my post to you about 1 Samuel 17 :jbhmm: a higher dimensional abstraction
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