Joey B vs. Don Tha Con: Battle For The Soul Of America - 2020 Presidential Debate in Cleveland, OH

[Professor Emeritus]

Ah there we go.

You got out your fukking feelings and let the truth slip.

Thats all I wanted. This ain't about me. Leave your beef at home and lets talk about significance. Its about the reality of the situation of democrats underinvesting in black democratic strongholds and chasing fickle hispanic voters that are going to vote republican anyways in the next 30 years. Thanks for proving my point.

Biden is doing worse than Hillary with Latinos and his numbers are sliding with latinos/hispanics as we speak in real time. Right now. This second.

Again, thanks for telling the truth.

Again, you're such a disingenuous liar. You claimed the poll showed that Biden should ignore Hispanics cause they won't vote for him.

If he's underperforming then the OPPOSITE is true. You try harder with groups you're underperforming your potential with, you don't ignore them.

How can you claim that Biden worse with Latinos than Hillary and then try to claim that it's useless for him to try to pick up any more Latino votes? Did Hillary have some magic Latino-attracting dust that Biden doesn't have access to?

Not to mention that your messaging on the Black vote has been all over the map. During the primaries you claimed that Biden cared about Black issues and Bernie didn't. You claimed that Biden had Black support and Bernie didn't. Now all the sudden you're copping that Biden doesn't care about Black voters like that?

And your twisting in the wind gets even weirder:

Biden might not even need the black vote this year. White republicans defecting fast as hell

Y'all gonna keep denying this?

Theres a major problem with the black vote.

That's strange....3 months ago you suggested Biden doesn't need Black voters.

3 weeks ago you posted a sensationalist, obviously false poll to claim that Biden was underperforming with Black voters and thus needs to concentrate on them entirely.

Today you post an obviously false poll to claim that Biden was losing with Latino voters and thus can't win them and must focus on Black voters.



You posted that Clinton did better with Black voters which shows that Biden needs to work harder. You posted that Clinton did better with Latino voters which shows that Biden needs to give up.


It doesn't seem you have any consistent logic at all. You just find the most sensational, divisive shyt to post and interpret it based solely on whatever your task is for the day.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Not to mention that your messaging on the Black vote has been all over the map. During the primaries you claimed that Biden cared about Black issues and Bernie didn't. You claimed that Biden had Black support and Bernie didn't. Now all the sudden you're copping that Biden doesn't care about Black voters like that?

You confused yourself again.

Its really simple:

1. Biden had more black support than Bernie. Thats not really up for debate, plus Bernie is a class reductionist from Vermont with no real black connection, but he made that choice 30 years ago and stuck with it.
2. Hispanic investment for democrats is a diminishing return

Thats it. You don't need to twist my words.

on to the rest of your lies:

That's strange....3 months ago you suggested Biden doesn't need Black voters.

3 weeks ago you posted a sensationalist, obviously false poll to claim that Biden was underperforming with Black voters and thus needs to concentrate on them entirely.

What is a "false poll" to you?

I'm talking about trends and excitement. The trump campaign sees a major opening with black men and I've been screaming about democrats not focusing on this for over a year.

Hell, here's my post about: EVERYONE SHOULD READ IT!
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/dem...ccasional-black-voters-including-ados.748181/

Biden and the democrats should've been investing where the base already is. Latinos have proven to be a fickle and often unproven reliable set of voters. Democrats thought the demographics would help them secure the electoral win. It doesn't seem to be working relative to the size of investment.

You posted that Clinton did better with Black voters which shows that Biden needs to work harder. You posted that Clinton did better with Latino voters which shows that Biden needs to give up.

Are you confused at just trying to attack me or speak coherently?

If Hillary did better with Latinos and lost and Biden is doing worse, what's that tell you?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

@Rhakim it seems you're working to spin some narrative. Its easy to understand:

Democrats don't get the ROI from latinos that they would get from investing in black voters.

Thats it.

The historical trends are proving this.

Biden is down from where Hillary was and Biden may very well lose more black male votes to Trump than he needs to because democrats don't invest in black voters more.

 

[Outlaw]

@Rhakim it seems you're working to spin some narrative. Its easy to understand:

Democrats don't get the ROI from latinos that they would get from investing in black voters.

Thats it.

The historical trends are proving this.

Biden is down from where Hillary was and Biden may very well lose more black male votes to Trump than he needs to because democrats don't invest in black voters more.

Democrats can invest in both. Surrendering Latinos to the republicans is a death sentence for the party

 

[Professor Emeritus]

What is a "false poll" to you?

A false poll is a poll that doesn't reflect reality.

A Twitter poll claiming that 66% of Latinos think Trump won the debate obviously has nothing to do with reality. Even BREITBART posted that the poll was off the internet and probably just gamed by trolls. BREITBART is being more honest about presidential poll results than you are.

Just like your previous post claiming 30% Black support for Trump, which was obviously false.

You suck at this. So why are you still doing it? Why do you post useless crap that isn't true in a place where you're not wanted?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

A false poll is a poll that doesn't reflect reality.

A Twitter poll claiming that 66% of Latinos think Trump won the debate obviously has nothing to do with reality. Even BREITBART posted that the poll was off the internet and probably just gamed by trolls. BREITBART is being more honest about presidential poll results than you are.

Just like your previous post claiming 30% Black support for Trump, which was obviously false.

You suck at this. So why are you still doing it? Why do you post useless crap that isn't true in a place where you're not wanted?

you ignore polls, you ignore trends.

Why do people even listen to you? You're just out here tossing data you don't like.

So what are we doing here?

Biden is down TEN POINTS with latinos from where Hillary was....this isn't important to you? YOU DONT CARE?!

also...

I said Trump THINKS they can hit 30% of the black male vote. You think I'm just making that up? You think I'm ok with that? ou think thats not important to know why Trump thinks that? I've been ringing this alarm for over a year because I saw this coming. I'm black. I have my ear to black politics. You don't. Thats why you're shocked to hear this: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/democrats-are-freaking-out-about-pro-trump-messaging-to-occasional-black-voters-including-ados.748181/

Who cares if I'm wanted here. This isn't a fukking circle jerk. Unless you want to live in a coc00n.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Democrats can invest in both. Surrendering Latinos to the republicans is a death sentence for the party

Theres no ROI.

Biden is down 10 points from where Hillary was with latinos and is bleeding edge in places he should be up with hispanics...they're going over to the republicans ...QUICKLY.

This ploy is increasingly backfiring.

 

[duckbutta]

Last night was a lower point in the presidency than JFK leaving half his head in downtown Dallas

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Last night was a lower point in the presidency than JFK leaving half his head in downtown Dallas

other than that Ms Lincoln, how was the play?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Biden's down 10 points in 4 years with allegedly "secured voters" and @Rhakim is like:


* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dude aint' even reading his own links. The comprehension is so bad when you read in detail it literally refutes his central argument because all he does is google headlines and try to fool people into thinking he knows what he's talking about.





Speaking of denial and disruption, theres thing to be said about arrogance and ignorance too

Dude is claiming polls from major networks are now "fake polls"

AIGHT fam, tell me what polls you wanna look at then... then compare 2016 to 2020. Then compare 2008 and 2012 to 2020.

The hispanic numbers are as bad as they've ever been and he doesn't want to address it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

@Rhakim Edsall the god was trying to warn you 18 months ago:

Opinion | ‘Why Aren’t Democrats Winning the Hispanic Vote 80-20 or 90-10?’





Why live in denial?

 

[The ADD]

Last night was a lower point in the presidency than JFK leaving half his head in downtown Dallas

Self inflicted..........Don’t ask me how

 

[Jesus H. Christ]

@Rhakim Edsall the god was trying to warn you 18 months ago:

Opinion | ‘Why Aren’t Democrats Winning the Hispanic Vote 80-20 or 90-10?’





Why live in denial?

We get it. You hate Latinos.

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

Biden won the debate. Even pro Trump forums say Biden performed better than expected. It’s over for Trump. Biden should cancel the remaining debates but allow the VP one.

lol would love to read these forums. My “friend” who likes Trump thought trump destroyed Biden. They love the childish antics trump pulled tonight.

 

[Outlaw]

lol would love to read these forums. My “friend” who likes Trump thought trump destroyed Biden. They love the childish antics trump pulled tonight.

The forum I lurk is the politics section of misc on the bodybuilder website. That site is filled with Trump cultists but it’s interesting to see the mental gymnastics they employ to spin Trump's lunacy.