Kanye flips out on Sway (full interview)

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I heard the flip out part, is the full interview worth listening to?
If you heard him on The Breakfast Club or on that BBC show a few months back, you don't even need to listen to this one.

He's basically complaining and talking about the exact same shyt.
 

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that's exactly why though lol, Kanye used to freestyle all the time, and he was pretty dope too. His focus is somewhere else now

:heh: Because dun can't rap (:ehh: write fixed, dun can rap really well actually) for shyt. He paid a bunch of whack rappers who could write well and used his top tier delivery and their bars
 

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That's what I was wondering, because I heard them both. Good looking out.
You should listen to it anyway. He regurgitates some lines but he still gives insight into the game, friend. You cannot take off in fashion without a financial backer. Ralph Lauren, Hillfigger, Fendi, etc, all had to go through the gatekeeper to get to where they are. In researching the big boys in fashion, there is no started from the bottom and made a billion. Literally, someone liked their work and gave them money to succeed. Thats what Kanye is trying to say here but people dont really understand the history of these companies that are here today.

Kanye may have to settle for being a Little guy, which may be to much for his ego.
 

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Again. I never defended Kanye the individual. I'm defending the idea of living your own life and telling the haters :yeshrug: :umad: . And I do this in most threads. The result is...you guys get offended and feel the need to 'check' me....because you don't like the idea or the possibility that your opinion is meaningless and also a detriment to progress in our society in general. Now I don't know you c00ns and cacs personally...so it can just be your online persona. So I just comment on the fukkery I see posted on a daily basis. Your rebuttal can be that my opinion doesn't matter....but I rarely offer it up.
Naw, that's not it at all bruh. I know Yeazle is not reading my posts and my thoughts aren't making a "difference" in his life. Though if he is :pacspit:

But trying to play this high and mighty role when you are just as much in it as anyone else, and your reasoning for participating is as petty as it can get is pretty fukkin stupid to me. Bottom like you're a Ye stan, which is fine, but you are trying to act like some elite objectivist who is above the fray, which is corny. IMO.

And to this whole Kanye acting 'strange' thing....he is right. Those in the past that pushed the envelope and switched shyt up were hated and vilified at the time...then embraced by society as a whole once it has progressed past it's present mindset and usually it's when that 'strange' person is deceased. It's taboo to say fukk the system and the cultural expectations of this current society and decide to flip shyt and work against the grain. Kanyes bottom line is...yeah I could be a Karl Kani and the powers that be are cool with that. But they are keeping us out of the upper echelons of production and manufacturing on a large scale because that is a secure foothold in global power and influence. One that remains constant and can grow from generation to generation. The crabs in the barrel are the radio hosts like Charlemagne etc. Kanye is doing this 90% for himself but in turn if he makes it a stream of black creatives could come after him and have the opportunity to join him and oprah etc on that level. In no way is this strange in my opinion. :yeshrug:

What envelope is he pushing dawg. Outside of music he is not doing anything revolutionary. He is just ranting and raving in interviews and generally being a hypocrite. He's not inspiring anybody, he's not on the level of any of the names he compares himself to (Warhol, MLK Jr, Michaelangelo etc). He is an egomaniac and I tihnk he is suffering some kind of mental breakdown.
 

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You should listen to it anyway. He regurgitates some lines but he still gives insight into the game, friend. You cannot take off in fashion without a financial backer. Ralph Lauren, Hillfigger, Fendi, etc, all had to go through the gatekeeper to get to where they are. In researching the big boys in fashion, there is no started from the bottom and made a billion. Literally, someone liked their work and gave them money to succeed. Thats what Kanye is trying to say here but people dont really understand the history of these companies that are here today.

Kanye may have to settle for being a Little guy, which may be to much for his ego.
Post some links bruh. People keep saying this but my research says otherwise.
 

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Post some links bruh. People keep saying this but my research says otherwise.
Name a designer.

Lets start with Ralph Lauren

In 1967, with the financial backing of Manhattan clothing manufacturer Norman Hilton, Lauren opened a necktie store where he also sold ties of his own design, under the label "Polo."[11] He later received the rights to use the trademark Polo from Brooks Brothers, however Brooks Brothers managed to retain its rights to the iconic "original polo button-down collar" shirt (still produced today), in spite of Lauren's Polo trademark. In 1971, he expanded his line and opened a Polo boutique on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills.[12]

So, friend with Ralph it took 4 years of solid sales after recieving financial backing to expand his operation. After recieving awards he got cosigns from the film industry and this is where he really started to rack in the dough as his clothing were used in films like Annie and The Great Gatsby.
 

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Tommy Hilfiger

In 1979 he moved to New York Cityto pursue a career as a full-time fashion designer.[7] Here, he caught the eye of Mohan Murjani, a businessman who was looking to launch a line of men’s clothing and believed that Hilfiger’s entrepreneurial background gave him the unique ability to approach men’s fashion in a new way. With Murjani’s support, Hilfiger introduced his first signature collection in 1985 by modernizing button-down shirts, chinos, and other time-honored classics with updated fits and details.[7]
 

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Versace, Fendi
Fendi is owned by Louis Vitton. Not sure if you knew this. It is a subsidiary company of Louis Vitton Moet Hennessey.

It was launched in 1925 by Edoardo and Adele Fendi,[2] as a fur and leather shop in Via del Plebiscito, Rome;[1] but today is a multinational luxury goods brand owned by LVMH. Karl Lagerfeld is the creative director.[3]

This is part of their fashion division and what allowed them to further expand.



Versace did a good job making a name for himself and recieved a good deal of his fortune after his wears were cosigned in noteworthy performance arts plays

At age 25, Versace was creating prêt-à-porter collections for top fashion houses of the time, including Genny, Complice and Callaghan.

In 1978, with the help of his brother, Santo, he founded the Gianni Versace company. Later that year, the first Gianni Versace collection for women was shown in Milan.

Also in 1982, Versace began work for Teatro della Scala, designing costumes for Veronesi's production of "Josephlegende". Gianni's engagement with the theater sparked a passion that would span his career. He was an ardent patron of the performing and visual arts and an esteemed member of the international artistic community. Versace's spectacular costumes were featured in stage events worldwide, among them Donizetti's "Don Pasquale" (1984) Bob Wilson's "Salome" (1987) and "Doktor Faust" (1989), and several Béjart ballets, including "Dionysos" (1984), "Leda and the Swan" (1987), "Malraux ou la Métamorphose des Dieux" (1986) and "Chaka Zulu" (1989). In 1985 Versace was awarded the "Maschera d'Argento" (Silver Mask) award for his contribution to the theater.

Friends need that cosign
 

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There's a difference between a company coming to you and asking to put your name on their product and sponsoring it. VS them giving you full control of the product, and making it your own. That's the difference between say Jordan and Lebron. In the beginning,Nike was supposed to carry Jordan , and the kicks had the Nike logo alongside the Jumpman. Well he got so big, Nike would've been foolish enough to not give him his own brand. But pointing out MJ has if he's the norm, when everything about him was the exception to the rule, at least get a netter analogy. Some people now forget that Nike still owns Jordan brand.

LBJ more than kanye should have an argument about that. But even LeBron fans would have to admit his sales, would not be the same if he were go to UA or Adidas. Nike carries LeBron. Not the other way around.

Ye keeps ranting on how his kicks were on par with the Jordans. Thats delusional. Don't compare the demand Js get. Not even LeBron gets that.
 

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You should listen to it anyway. He regurgitates some lines but he still gives insight into the game, friend. You cannot take off in fashion without a financial backer. Ralph Lauren, Hillfigger, Fendi, etc, all had to go through the gatekeeper to get to where they are. In researching the big boys in fashion, there is no started from the bottom and made a billion. Literally, someone liked their work and gave them money to succeed. Thats what Kanye is trying to say here but people dont really understand the history of these companies that are here today.

Kanye may have to settle for being a Little guy, which may be to much for his ego.


I could be wrong, cuz I skimmed these interviews but Kanye isn't even asking for financial backing is he? If money was the issue, he could get 10 Saudi Arabian oil money princes to fund whatever fashion project he wants today (not to mention his own network of rich friends and potential investors...same people who fund his gfs ventures).

What he's asking for is access/cosigns/creative control/ a warm embrace from the big fashion houses that can provide automatic credibility to his brands. The things he craves are not tangible or real. All imagined and ultimately worthless so he is destined to fail...
 
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